Michele Bachmann Iowa campaign co-chair endorses Ron Paul

the fact that Ron Paul is even considered the best candidate shows how weak the GOP has become in recent years.

 

My point was that the Tea Party Wing is out of touch with reality. They are wistful for a romanticized 1950's America that only existed by the exploitation and subordination of races, nationalities, religions and orientations that will not be subjugated again.

Hey it's great to be me, I've had every advantage low paid blacks, slave wage Asians, oil wealth subverted Arabs, tin horn dictator ruled Central and South Americans, Robber Barron exploited laborers and fearless Christian soldiers could have given me. But the world is too informed, diverse and globalized now. You can't go back, you can't simplify. As you go forward, things get more complicated, more people need be accommodated, everyone can know the score, everyone can choose, and more compromises need to be made; not less.

Sorry, but that's the way it is. Bachmann and Paul are hilarious because they are sticking the their fingers in the dyke when the Hoover Dam of change is busting wide open.

 

i worked for the irs as double agent.

 

I don't know how you can fool yourself into think that's an accurate representation of Paul's views. It seems like every criticism I hear of the man boils down to some non-sensical misrepresentation.

 

They are also hilarious because the whole exercise of the GOP primary is a corporate sponsored circle jerk to give the appearance of a contested Presidential race when in fact, Obama will win, but it doesn't make any difference anyway. The status quo is set 'pro-Money' and it's the Money that runs the Congress and Congress that runs the country.

(You can look back at the 2008 threads. I like Obama, still do though he doesn't even give a hint of trying to buck the trend. But I said then nothing would change much and it hasn't.)

We rant and wail here for fun but my real personal advice would be to find a place where you can exist in effort to be happy, surf the system or off the grid. Because sh** is going to go where it will.

 

I said nothing racist.

 

On this, I agree.

 

Lay them out John. I could be wrong.

Isolationism?
Gold Standard?
Free markets?
Abolished Regulation?

 

This is what I was referring to:

But regardless, I wouldn't say calling less military intervention and more free trade with the world is "isolationist."

And I constantly hear that Ron Paul is crazy because he supports a Gold Standard when he's frequently said that he supports Gold and Silver as legal tender, as the Constitution states, and competition in currency. Currency doesn't always have to be legal tender. Making gold and silver legal tender just means that taxes would be denominated in the dollar equivalent of a "gold standard."

Free markets? Just rhetoric, because nobody really believes in free markets. After all, an absolute free market wouldn't have protections for people's property, etc. Free markets are essentially just another way of saying that goods and services should be allocated and priced based on supply and demand, and that supply and demand shouldn't be manipulated for political reasons because of the effect that it has on the entire market. An example would be demand 'overheating' during the housing bubble. Demand was stimulated without regard to market forces and it caused prices to increase for housing, homes to become less affordable, increased borrowing, decreased savings, and eventually, a bust because of what occurred in the secondary mortgage market (in short).

Abolished regulation? Nobody is calling for all regulation to be abolished. This goes back to what I said about free markets. They are never absolutely free. Ron Paul isn't saying that corporations should be able to harm anybody for profit. It seems as though if anybody talks about reducing regulation, they assume that the government is going to allow big business to murder, rape and pillage for profit, which is just entirely false political rhetoric.

 

Your moniker should be: Crytop

 

So Ron Paul is just a moderate Republican who is less militaristic and more into individual rights? or a liberal who is a bit more trusting of the market.

 

Every post you make is filled to the brim with impotent and saggy rage.

It's sad.

 

Why the hell was there even a post discussing bigotry against non-Christians and homosexuals in a Ron Paul thread? Isn't the idea of libertarianism to get away from those things? Socialists are the ones that would have everyone believe and act the same way. Immense irony. 'Putting their fingers in the dyke of change', really? Obama is that 'unstoppable force' I take it?

And we're so afraid of a free market that we're going to start all of this hyperbole about 1950's utopia? I'm either getting trolled to high heaven or people are now using the same old, old, old tired anti-Republican quips against the Republican party's least kosher candidate in years. Wow. Like, pass the bong bros.

 

I don't get this. When did the Republican party step back and say Paul was its best candidate? Regardless, when did we come so paradoxical? A nominated Ron Paul would actually represent some sort of progress for the Republican party that has been bloating into a conflicted, evangelical anti-liberal party. Whew. Whatever.

 

tee to the hee

 

Don't you have some homes to burn down, you typical jealous loser POS?

 

Ah, the old "Libertarians can't be racists" thing. Given that we've had a couple threads arguing about some fairly racist incidents from Paul, you should search more.

My observation about libertarians and racism? Go to any Ron Paul video on Youtube, or any article about the guy that's negative, and look in the comments. I've seen all sorts of ridiculous crap, mostly about Jews ( because I'm sorry, the "Federal Reserve is evil and threatens the government" is one or two steps removed from ancient Jewish banker nonsense). David Frum can attest to that. I can attest to talking with Paulbots back when I did support Paul in 2008 who ranted about the "Jews didn't go to work on 9/11" thing.

Now obviously it's not exactly the most intellectual thing to look at, but it completely belies that assumption. Libertarians are perfectly capable of being racist assholes, just like everyone else. They're not special.

 

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=212882

 

Serious question - do you believe Ron Paul is a racist?

 

Ron Paul might not be our next president but there is a good chance he will have huge impact on who will be the next president.