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Michael Sam says he is gay; could become first openly gay NFL player

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Feb 9, 2014.

  1. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I want to thank everybody for their support and encouragement,especially <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@espn</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes">@nytimes</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/nfl">@nfl</a>. I am proud to tell my story to the world!</p>&mdash; Michael Sam (@MikeSamFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSamFootball/statuses/432680996203270144">February 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Want to give an additional thanks to my supportive family and team <a href="https://twitter.com/HowardBragman">@HowardBragman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/EmpireAthletes">@EmpireAthletes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/camRONweiss">@camRONweiss</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBarkett">@JoeBarkett</a></p>&mdash; Michael Sam (@MikeSamFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSamFootball/statuses/432685679479230464">February 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Breaking News: Michael Sam, one of college football's top players and a likely N.F.L draft pick, says he is gay <a href="http://t.co/uFr1d9CBVy">http://t.co/uFr1d9CBVy</a></p>&mdash; The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/statuses/432680546091958273">February 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The NFL's statement on NFL Draft Prospect Michael Sam announcing he's gay. &gt;&gt; <a href="http://t.co/Mnz412VCnp">pic.twitter.com/Mnz412VCnp</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/statuses/432683086933790720">February 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  2. juicystream

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    Pretty brave of him.

    Pretty disgusting of scouts if they were acting on rumors of him being gay.
     
  3. Hustle Town

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    He will get a ton of media attention, and I'm sure there are many teams that do not want the distraction.
     
  4. danielcp0303

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    His statement just ran on the bottomline of ESPN, so proud of the young man. He gets to be who he is, a very exceptional person and player.
     
  5. juicystream

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    Still unacceptable by the scouts.
     
  6. Hustle Town

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    Not talking about the scouts. I agree.
     
  7. TheFreak

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    Not sure what you mean. Don't see anything about scouts in anything that's been posted.
     
  8. Commodore

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    Long for the day when expressing a sexual preference is not a mark of heroism. I don't care where he likes to stick it.

    Truth is he will make a ton of money from this and suffer no negative consequences.

    How has Obama not tweeted about this yet, he loves to horn in on stuff like this.
     
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  9. J.R.

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    How will news that Michael Sam is gay affect NFL draft his stock?

    The executives and coaches were granted anonymity by SI.com for their honesty and their answers were consistently unsparing.

    "I don't think football is ready for it just yet," said an NFL player personnel assistant. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

    All the NFL personnel interviewed agreed that Sam's announcement will cause him to drop in the draft; he was projected between the third and seventh round prior to the announcement. The question will be how far he falls and if he gets chosen at all.

    "I just know with this going on this is going to drop him down," said a veteran NFL scout. "There's no question about it. It's human nature. Do you want to be the team to quote-unquote 'break that barrier?'"

    Before his announcement, Sam had already emerged as a divisive prospect. Some look at his SEC-best 11.5 sacks and 19 tackles for loss and see a high motor pass rusher who could have gone as high as the third round. Others see Sam, who is 6-foot-2 and 260 pounds, as undersized defensive end without a true position in the NFL. Of his 11.5 sacks, nine came in three games against what one scout called "garbage competition" -- Vanderbilt, Arkansas State and Florida. "His numbers are inflated," a scout said. "You've got to see through that."

    One former NFL general manager described how Sam's future could play out in the draft room. He said when a team is getting in position to make a pick, there's typically a declaration in the draft room that they're nine slots from choosing and will pick from six different players, or five spots away and choose from three players.

    If Sam is among that group of players, the potential distraction of his presence -- both in the media and the locker room -- could prevent him from being selected.

    "That will break a tie against that player," he said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping to the Today Show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'"

    The former general manager said that it would take an NFL franchise with a strong owner, savvy general manager and veteran coach to make it work. He rattled off franchises like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco, Baltimore and Indianapolis as destinations where that could happen. He said that a team with a rookie head coach would not be an ideal destination. "This plays better in Green Bay," he said, "that it does in New York."

    Sam's announcement did not come as a surprise to most NFL teams. Sam's sexual orientation was considered an open secret in his college town of Columbia, Mo., and the assistant personnel man said he believed "90-percent of teams" had already known about that Sam was gay and had dropped him on their draft boards. He estimated that of the 32 NFL franchises, only two or three didn't know prior the news. He projected that it will impact Sam's draft status "quite a bit."

    "You're going to have to have one confident general manager or head coach that is certainly entrenched in his position and established to draft a player like that," the assistant personnel director said. "It's one thing to have Chris Kluwe or Brendon Ayanbadejo, advocates for gay rights, on your team. It's another to have a current confirmed player."

    Multiple NFL executives questioned the decision to come out now, as Sam will be the biggest story in football between now and the NFL Draft on May 8. The NFL combine from Feb. 22-25 will be a four-day referendum on Sam's professional future. And his place in the NFL Draft will be endlessly debated between now and May.

    An NFL assistant coach called Sam's decision "not a smart move," as he said it "legitimately affects your potential earnings." It wasn't lost on the NFL executives that former NBA player Jason Collins, who came out last April in a Sports Illustrated story, hasn't been signed by an NBA team this year.

    "You shouldn't have to live your life in secrecy," the assistant coach said, "but do you really want to be the top of the conversation for everything without ever having played a down in this league?"

    The assistant coach said that the decision to draft Sam will ultimately rest on the desire of a franchise to risk disrupting the dynamic of the locker room.

    "There are guys in locker rooms that maturity-wise cannot handle it or deal with the thought of that," the assistant coach said. "There's nothing more sensitive than the heartbeat of the locker room. If you knowingly bring someone in there with that sexual orientation, how are the other guys going to deal with it? It's going to be a big distraction. That's the reality. It shouldn't be, but it will be."​
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    But him saying this is a step in that direction so you should be happy for him
     
  11. juicystream

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    :confused:

    In the article, it said scouts were asking his agents about if he had a gf, or been seen with a girl.

    [rquoter]At a showcase game for college seniors last month, several scouts asked Mr. Sam’s agent, Joe Barkett, questions about whether Mr. Sam had a girlfriend or whether Mr. Barkett had seen him with women.

    The league, which has a policy prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation[/rquoter]
     
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    How will this make him rich?

    How do you know how this will affect his NFL career?

    He's taking a risk.
     
  13. SC1211

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    People like you (with little to no sense of empathy for those who are unlike you) are why society takes so long to progress. What a morally pathetic post.
     
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    If the NFL isn't ready for a gay athlete now then the league never will be ready.

    I don't think it's a big deal. All I care about is if the man can produce on the field.
     
  15. Hustle Town

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    My thoughts are in line with the NFL execs/coaches/scouts in this article. An openly gay player presents a media circus that very few NFL organizations want to deal with. His draft stock will drop dramatically.
     
  16. Commodore

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    Teams/coaches most certainly care about the media circus this will bring. Is he a good enough player to justify all that distraction?
     
  17. Kim

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    It seriously is, and I don't give a rats ass if someone is gay/straight/whatever...but there's a difference between that and completely ignoring the realities of the negative consequences of being gay in male sports and the courage it takes for him to do this.

    The environment is much better for him to do that today than it is in the past, but it's a freakin good step in the right direction where the ideal that we're striving for is that sexual preference doesn't matter at all.

    There will be some jokes and backlash, then some return overzealous backlash to the backlash. Others will say there's no news and backlash against the overzealous people...it's all part of the damn process bc there's so much crap out there. Let it all play out and hopefully in 10 years, this issue won't be an issue anymore.
     
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    This, most coaches/players probably knew/suspected it about others and just didn't care.

    But a media frenzy around the team is a whole different animal.
     
  19. Shaud

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    The media hype around it would die down soon after he is drafted.

    Shouldn't keep teams from drafting him and if it does that is pathetic.
     
  20. Hustle Town

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    That's the thing: the media hype will not die down. The media has an obsession with gay people, whether you like it or not. The Texans won't take him; O'Brien would not want the distraction from the media.

    I feel like a broken record with these posts.
     

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