Hey Brahma, you let MJ play back in the day with the talent he has, and he would destroy people. Wilt was was certainly great but can you honestly say that if you threw him into the mix with Shaq, Duncan, Mourning, and Hakeem that he is even the greatest center. The fact is Jordan is probably the most competitive player (besides possibly Larry Bird and Bill Russel) to ever play. His ability to win, make others better, and take completely over games even when sick is just unbelievable. I don't think you can really compare people from generations to the next, but if I could have one player of all time on my team I would quickly take Michael. He is the perfect athlete, perfect competitor, and carries himself with a modest and confident swagger that Wilt never knew. Props by the way to whoever mentioned Oscar Robertson. He deserves a strong mention.
that would be me who mentioned the big o. and i would pick chamberlain over jordan any day of the week.jordan would not have destroyed teams back then he would of just been a good player that got dominated by the celtics and if he had'nt won any championships he would never even come close to being the best ever he would be with dominique wilkens.can i ask you a question, were you around when wilt played? because if you ask any former player or fan from that day they will automatically say wilt, but if you ask any teenager with the air jordans on today they will automatically say jordan. it comes down to this, if they were playing one on one who would win?
Soryy if this is a little off the topic but... could someone please list who ESPN rated as the top 5 athletes? THat was a pretty interesting series, but I was so busy and have missed alot over the last month due to my Y2K responsibilities...what an overhyped event! ------------------ -Peace to the Believers
First of all, Wilt had a total game. He dominated the scoring, Like Mikey never could. People would get their panties in a bundle over Jordan scoring 50, Wilt averaged that for a season. Didnt he also dominate Rebounding, and even thouh stats weren't kept on them, Block? Wasn't he also a great defender? Didn't he also lead the league in assists one year. Wasn't he an all aroung good passer? Hey when Jordan could lead the leage in Rebounding or Assists. Or heck Pull off an Oscar Robertson and go off for a triple double for a whole season, then maybe he'd have my attention.
IMHO, no center can ever be called the greatest ever. As a center you are dependent on someone else getting you the ball. To be able to be called the greatest, I think you need to do it all....Thus Jordan..who could dribble, pass, shoot, rebound, defend...etc..etc..would be rated higher then Wilt. I think the 2 best ever are Jordan and Oscar Robertson. You can't do anything without the ball. DaDakota
Jordan is the best and that is final. Man, This is crap, ppl talking about Chamberlien did this and that. How many teams were there back then? Like 12. And wilt was the tallest player, no one even came close to his height. Someone mentioned here that they were like 6'2, 6'3 white guys gaurding him. THAT IS exactly what they were. Small players holding a giant. But if wilt ever came in his prime to the nba, He wouldnt even be half of what he was back then. He would still be really good, but no 100 point games or 55 rebounds. Wilt played in the old days when there were no tall players.
You guys are over hyping the size difference in comparison to days gone by. Wilt is very similar to a Shaq. Actually he was not as big as Shaq. Is anyone griping that Shaq doesn't deserve his accolades because of how much taller he is. If so then Jordan was a taller shooting guard than most in his day..... Francis3. You nailed it. Other teams were playing their 6'2" white guys on WILT. I guess when the 3 greatest centers on earth played in Wilts era, he had a distinct advantage over the 6'2" Russell, or the 6'3" Kareem. Average height in the NBA has probaly gone up 3 inches since the 60's. And Id argue that those inches are mostly seen in the guards.
DaDakota, When Dream was the best in the league in the mid '90's, the offense was run through him, but he never had the reponsibility of bringing the ball down court. Mango
if you're judging a player by his all around skills then jordan is far from the top of that category. you tell me what he has done well at besides scoring and playind a little d. wilt had led the league in points.assists,rebounds and fieldgoal percentage at one time in his career. jordan never did that. and to say jordan is a great passer his hilarious. did you ever watch his games, on a good night at best he would have 7 assists. jordan is a scorer and thats it, wilt was the most dominate player this league has ever seen.
one of my problems with mj that he own no career record hardly. he's not all time scorer, rebounder, steals, assisists or blcoks or anything. but everytime i say he owns no record some mj fan makes a comment like he does to spacejam has a recorfd
First of all, Wilt had a total game. He dominated the scoring, Like Mikey never could. Jordan is the all-time leader in ppg, playoff ppg, and NBA Finals ppg. Better than Wilt in all 3 categories.
wilt still had a more total game then jordan pal, he may not be ahead of him in scoring (1.4ppg) but where is jordan in rebounds, in assists where guards should be. like i said before, mj was a scorer, wilt dominated the whole game
No disrespect to MJ but Wilts the most dominating player of all time ------------------ Moses begat Sampson, Sampson begat Hakeem, And Hakeem led us to the promised land
Jordan is the greatest of alll time. Chamberlien came in the league having it easy with short players holding him then when other greats came his average started to drop and his last season he averaged like 14. Wilt was a great player but jordan is better. IF wilt was sooo dominant then how come he only won 2 rings?
can you say celtics, geez man get a clue if you are judging players abilities by how many championships they won then are you saying steve kerr is better than the dream because he more titles?
No the way you make it sound as if he couldnt be stopped and he was the greatest at everything. Wilt was a good player but when his last years of his career were coming his average dropped to like 13 and 14 points a game. Can you explain that to me ? I think it is because the league got harder and wilt couldnt easily handle the players holding him.
because he was older man! and even when he was old and according to you with a tougher league he still had 19 rebounds a game.when ever wilt put his mind to something he could easily dominate it.
