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Mexico set to decriminalize pot, cocaine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by oomp, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, my fight for regulation is not related to a desire to use. I was offered jobs in Amsterdam, where mar1juana is tolerated, and Alaska, where it is currently legal to have up to a quarter pound in your home. Had my desire for reform been based on a desire to use, I would have moved to one of those places nearly a decade ago.

    Drugs should be regulated because it is the right thing to do.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    They can then say that every Mexican is a potential drug users. Playing right into anti-immigrant hands.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Which is the reason that you expand DUI laws to cover substances other than alcohol.

    Only people who don't know what they are talking about with regards to drug use and abuse.

    Can you cite a single positive effect that drug prohibition has had?

    Please, I beg you, educate yourself on this subject.

    Every single study since the late 1800s to delve into the issue of drugs in general and mar1juana in particular has concluded that prohibition is the worst policy there is. There is not a more destructive or less effective way to deal with this issue.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    lets be honest, people do plenty of drugs in this country but yet in still the most accidents are caused by alcohol. I think your senario is a non-factor, not saying drugs should be legal.

    I don't think people jump in the car after doing heroin anyway.
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    They generally take a good long nap.
     
  6. JumpMan

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    They must reverse this decision, I'm sitting here trying to think of a reason on why it should happen and I can't, I can just imagine people snorting cocaine in public, shooting up in restaurants as if they're smoking a cigarette. Mexico is not a country to experiment this on, the majority of the people there are too poor, too uneducated, they don't know how to control alcohol use much less the more powerful drugs. This will just lead to more addictions that most of their population cannot afford, I can't believe Mexicans would do this to their own people, it's going to be a disaster, the only question I have is who put them up to this?
     
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    As far as addiction goes, how are pot and cocaine compared to opium?
     
  8. BobFinn*

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    ok, so some loser that smokes pot gets in a car...

    or another loser snorts 2 lines of coke and gets in a car to get more coke....

    Where is the end?

    Passing laws THAT ALLOW SMALL AMOUNTS of drugs will surely increase accidents caused by drugs. Thats just common sense.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    People who use drugs will do so no matter what. Decriminalizing doesn't open the floodgates because there's an inherent choice to using drugs. Just like accepting homosexuality in the public won't see the sudden conversion of more gays.

    Alcohol prohibition produced some of the most notorious organized crime bosses in America. Likewise, the drug prohibition is feeding the bottom line of today's organized crime.
     
  10. oomp

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    Well, if you like conspiracies...

    As recently as 1997 the Mexican Drug Czar, Gen. Jose de Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, was removed from office and arrested for taking bribes from the Juarez drug cartel.

    I don't really think this is the case though. Mexican Officials want to concentrate on the big drug dealers and find that they are wasting their time and resources on the small time, casual users. Much like what happens here in the US.
     
  11. Nolen

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    I agree that they should decriminalize dealing to 'cut the market from under them', but maybe that was too big a step for them to take at this time.

    I think the point of this particular step (anyone feel free to correct me) is that they free up a lot of police force from arresting petty users and go after the big guys. It also unclogs the court system from processing & prosecuiting users. I think it's a good idea, and a good first step. I'm curious how it will work, and perhaps they'll make broader legalization in the future.
     
  12. BobFinn*

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    Educate myself on the subject? pfft...still thy tongue. What are you a self appointed expert?

    Yeah let's legalize drugs since prohibiting them has obviously not worked.

    Let's all partake of drugs and all be merry and happy and live happily ever after.

    I know you are too young to remember the 60's but we tried it way back then and it didn't work.
     
  13. JumpMan

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    I do like a good conspiracy! Maybe the CIA is holding out payments so the Mexican government decided to create a bigger market in Mexico, and once the CIA pays up they'll send their drugs up here again. ;)

    Seriously though, catching the big drug dealers sounds good, but it still doesn't make much sense, because the final destination of most of the drugs that are produced or go through Mexico is still the USA.
     
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    Nolen Nolen Nolen...

    You realize that cocaine and heroin are the 2 most addictive drugs?

    Where are these people that get addicted to them get their drugs?

    So let's say the cops are freed up to bust the "Cartels", what happens to these addicts?

    Obviously mexico is saying it's ok to get addicted to these drugs, but we are going to cut off your supply (which will never happen)

    So exactly what will they accomplish?
     
  15. SWTsig

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    adios amigos!
     
  16. SWTsig

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    pot isn't addcitive at all

    cocaine can be

    if you start messing with opiates those puppies can get very addictive very quickly.

    but honestly, it depends on the person.
     
  17. Deckard

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    That would be my guess, but this is completely out of left field. I had no idea that this was imminent legislation in Mexico. Wow. Fox is planning on signing it?

    Wow. (said that already, didn't I!)



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  18. Lil Pun

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    I wouldn't necessarily say that because from personal experiences it looks like it can be but maybe it hasn't been scientifically proven though.
     
  19. Lil Pun

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    Let me state one other thing, I am like andymoon, I have no desire to use drugs hell I don't even intake caffeine but I realize it would probably cost a lot less in terms of regulating drugs than fighting the use and distribution of them.
     
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