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Mexico is failing and will descend into chaos

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by God's Son, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. fmullegun

    fmullegun Contributing Member

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    It's called the national guard and the people who sent them overseas should be on trial
     
  2. plutoblue11

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    There was a point in time in my life when I thought the North American Union would never be a reality...crazy conspiracy theory.

    Now, I am not afraid to profess my ignorance and say it has a fairer chance of coming true.
     
  3. insane man

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    canadian economy sucks right now. alberta is a huge ditch. their commodities have completely plummeted. i think they gain. if for no other reason than to lessen their hassles. it would lower prices in canada for sure i'd imagine.

    as far as actual services canadians provide which may be taken advantage of, we'll have a national healthcare system in the next decade anyway. there could be some residency requirements and such for some services. but the fact that my degree isn't easily transferable to canada is stupid. the fact that i can't even move there when i want to retire, relatively easily, makes no sense to me.
     
  4. rimrocker

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    If we annex Canada, where will I move when George P. becomes the next Republican President?
     
  5. wtfamonkey

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    horrible idea to annex Mexico.

    better idea. legalize drugs. they will put most cartels out of business
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6252764.html

    More than 200 Americans killed in Mexico since '04
    HOUSTON — More than 200 American citizens have been killed since 2004 in Mexico's escalating wave of violence, amounting to the highest number of unnatural deaths in any foreign country outside military combat zones, according to the U.S. State Department.

    The deaths included a 22-year-old Houston man and his 16-year-old friend who were hauled out of a minivan and shot execution style. They also included a 65-year-old nurse from Brownsville found floating in the Rio Grande after visiting a Mexican beauty salon and a retiree stabbed to death while camping on a Baja beach, reported the Houston Chronicle in a story published Sunday, which examined hundreds of records related to the deaths.

    The State Department tracks most American homicides abroad but releases few details about the deaths. Most, however, occurred in border cities, including Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and Nuevo Laredo, where violence has spiked with drug cartel feuds in recent years.

    The Chronicle analysis showed some American homicide victims were involved in organized crime. At least two dozen American victims were labeled as cartel hitmen, drug dealers, smugglers or gang members. Others were drug users or wanted for crimes in the United States.

    But in at least 70 other cases, the Americans were killed in Mexico while there on seemingly innocent business: visiting family, vacationing or living and working there.

    Mexican Congressman Juan Francisco Rivera Bedoya of Nuevo Leon said he believes most American victims get killed after crossing the border for illegal activities or venturing into unsafe areas.

    "Tourists visiting cathedrals, museums and other cultural centers are not at risk," he said.

    The State Department last year issued "travel alerts" for several border communities, warning that dozens of U.S. citizens had been kidnapped or killed in Tijuana, though it gave no details.

    "We're not trying to scare anybody off, but we sure as heck want people to be aware of the dangerous conditions that they might encounter in certain parts of the country," said former U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza in an interview before he left his post.

    Across Mexico, more than 5,000 people were killed last year, authorities report. Some of the deaths of police and other public officials have been public and gruesome, with bodies posed in public places.

    The Chronicle found that among the American deaths, at least 40 were killed and had their bodies dumped in the methods favored by drug cartels.

    Few of the killers are caught.

    Only about 20 percent of homicides in Mexico result in arrests, the Chronicle found in its analysis of data from the Citizens' Safety Institute. The Mexico City-based nonprofit surveys prosecutors across Mexico.

    Records from the prosecutor in Baja California Norte, home to Tijuana, show none of the cases from 2004 to 2006 have been closed. More than 90 Americans have been killed in the state south of San Diego since 2003.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The USA could help Mexico a lot, with their infastrcuture, education, and better constitution.

    They should apply to join the union.

    Plus our national soccer team would be much better, and if we annex Canada, our hockey team would get a major boost.

    Win win baby.

    DD
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    In addition to other benefits that I have described in other threads, regulating the trade in illicit drugs would reduce or eliminate the violence inherent in any prohibitionist system (Come to see the violence inherent in the system, help, help, I'm being repressed! ;) ). Since the VAST majority of the violent deaths in Mexico are related to the trade in illegal drugs, this one simple action would drastically reduce the amount of violent crime south of our border.
     
  9. rockergordon

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  10. El_Conquistador

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    Mexico will be facing enormous financial problems, as a country, with the combination of low oil prices and the Canterell field petering out. Pemex contributes a very large % of Mexico's annual operating budget. If Canterell is toast, then they are facing a fiscal crisis. All of this is the direct result of woeful under-development of their own resources and the resistance to bringing in US contractors to assist in that development. Mexico's reluctance to benefit from free market principles in helping to solve their production problem will end up being their downfall. Things could really get ugly in Mexico over the next 5 years.
     
  11. KingCheetah

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    No big deal, we just put up a fence -- problem solved.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    that dining with industrialists didn't produce any contracts?
     
  13. halfbreed

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    Yeah because Mexico is so much better than us in soccer and Canada is overwhelmingly better in hockey. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    do they have better senses of humor? :p
     
  15. halfbreed

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    I considered the fact that it was a joke but then saw the author and figured he honestly thought that this would be a logical consequence of his joke suggestion.

    I anxiously await his post on annexing Greece to get better at the point guard position.
     
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  16. fmullegun

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    Stimulus:


    More wall on the border.

    More rifles on the border.

    Better documentation the the repeat offenders rescued trying to cross.

    PRESSURE MEXICO TO WORK THE PROBLEM FROM THEIR END!
     
  17. Rocketman95

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    i stand corrected. :D
     
  18. Rashmon

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    I think if we all start using more drugs (not the cheap stuff), the supply will go down initially, and prices may increase, but once the dealers see the potential demand, they will have to produce more, then the price will go back down, we then use even more drugs (maybe even some crack), so the supply will go down again, and prices may increase, but then they will have to produce even more (preferably Acapulco gold), the price will eventually go down, and like after we do this for a while (like a cycle-thing), then we'll all just cut back real quick (cold turkey-got me on the run) and cause a glut on the market, prices will drop preciptiously (helter skelter coming down fast), we'll all be able to get really ripped and then there will be less violence.
     
  19. leroy

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    True, but this predicted chaos could become reality on Wednesday night. Mexicans don't believe that the tides have turned. Another thumping by the US in major competition could set off the citizens in Mexico. President Obama should probably send some troops to the border tomorrow to be safe. :)
     
  20. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Jesus Christ you're over reacting.
     

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