1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Messed Up]Juneteenth Celebration Gone Wrong

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by OldManBernie, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. dskillz

    dskillz Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    1,595
    Likes Received:
    5

    John Gotti's 5-year old was playing in the street in a blind corner and got hit by a car and died. Gotti tortured, killed the driver and then chopped him up in his bathtub. There are alot of people who are not rational and don't stop to think or are not capable of it. The girl wasn't seriously injured, the driver got out to help, but you go and attack him. Stupidity at it's worst right there.
     
  2. the futants

    the futants Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    5,157
    Likes Received:
    175
    http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=186506


    TOP STORIES

    APD press release creates false images of man's slaying
    6/21/2007 10:31 AM
    By: Reagan Hackleman



    The headlines following Tuesday's tragedy said it all.

    CBS had "Crowd attacks, kills man at Juneteenth festival," while ABC's website called the crowd a "mob," and those were just a few examples.

    Austin's new police chief Art Acevedo calls the information "absolutely not accurate," and places part of the blame on the department he's set to take over on Thursday.

    "I believe we kind of fed into it as an organization by putting information into the press release that wasn't even relevant," Acevedo said.

    The information Acevedo is speaking of was sent to media outlets Wednesday morning. Near the end of the press release APD stated: "It is believed there were 2,000 to 3,000 people who were in the area when the driver and Morales were attacked."

    "We've created with our press release a perception that we had an unruly crowd of 2,000 to 3,000 people, an actual mob, when in fact they were not," Acevedo said.




    APD admits the descriptions in their press release caused many news outlets to report misleading stories.





    "Unfortunately, the way that we put the press release together it didn't actually depict what actually happened," Assistant City Manager Michael McDonald said.

    McDonald said the link made between the Juneteenth celebration and the murder...was also a mistake.

    "Yes, there were a couple thousand people at that event but over where this took place there were 10 to 15 people who lived in the area," McDonald said.

    "What's relevant is who was involved, and the people that were involved were the people that committed the crime," Acevedo said.
     
  3. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

    Joined:
    May 5, 2000
    Messages:
    2,851
    Likes Received:
    221
    I guess I jumped the gun in thinking it was some sort of mob killing. While the whole ordeal is still pretty messed up, it is definitely different than what I thought was happening.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,784
    Likes Received:
    3,705
    so some people owe rocket river an apology on his first statement.
     
  5. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,304
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    I have my doubts about Acevedo being able to straighten out the APD. His brother didn't do such a great job in Farmington.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    And how did RR have such info that the news did not? Oh wait, he didn't. He had the same knowledge as the rest of us. He just wanted to deny what was reported for personal reasons.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,784
    Likes Received:
    3,705

    go back and read the original story.
     
  8. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    I'm gonna have to agree with you here.

    I didn't post anything, but I thought it. My apologies RR.
     
  9. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    I have.

    I also read this: There were conflicting accounts of how many people were in the area. Police originally estimated 2,000 to 3,000 and a woman who lives at the complex said hundreds who had been at a Juneteenth festival filled the parking lot and street.

    Now what info did RR have that the news did not?
     
  10. rrj_gamz

    rrj_gamz Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2002
    Messages:
    15,595
    Likes Received:
    198
    This is just crazy...The guy killed wasn't even driving, just helping...
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,784
    Likes Received:
    3,705

    the original story never says that thousands witnessed the beating, it never even says that the crowd was around at the same time.

    just be a man and admit you were wrong
     
  12. Mr. Brightside

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2005
    Messages:
    18,964
    Likes Received:
    2,147
    The kid should have stayed off the damn path of the car. Or his parents should have made sure of that. I don't automatically believe its the drivers fault that the kid was hit.
     
  13. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    It didn't say it wasn't either. The story says thousands were in the area. Where did RR get his facts from? What was I wrong about? I never said anything about the situation.
     
  14. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,086
    Likes Received:
    1,352
    when I was on the ambulances out there, I saw much, much worse stuff east of 35 (consistently) than anywhere else.

    i.e. suicidal guys threatening themselves and others with butter knives who just got DD implants put in the day before.

    or a 13 yr old white girl calling the ambulance and running out to it just to get away from her black parents by adoption who were deep into drugs and putting her in a situation that made her scared for her life

    etc.
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,784
    Likes Received:
    3,705

    you were wrong for chastising rocket river
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    His point was that it had nothing to do with Juneteenth, assuming the crowd was a part of the celebration. He never denied the crowd itself.

    I have seen bad people at good things. I quit going to Bob Marley Day Fest after it moved from Root Memorial Park in the late '80s for this very reason (among others, like dancehall djs drowning out the live music). Large crowds can get sketchy.
     
  17. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2002
    Messages:
    15,557
    Likes Received:
    17
    ...kabob? ;)

    Don't pat yourself on the back too much there...
     
    #57 tigermission1, Jun 21, 2007
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2007
  18. BrockStapper

    BrockStapper Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,389
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree that the East side is more shady than the West side - but I moved there from Pleasant Grove in Dallas. The things you describe here are nothing compaired to what I saw on an almost daily basis over a three year period in the hood in Dallas. Nothing I saw on the East side of Austin was remotely close to South Dallas.
     
  19. ubigred

    ubigred Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2005
    Messages:
    7,363
    Likes Received:
    127

    we almost a good debate...why did you have to make it racial?
     
  20. Hippieloser

    Hippieloser Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2003
    Messages:
    8,272
    Likes Received:
    2,136
    Austin definitely has the pussiest "ghettos" I've ever seen. When I used to live on E. Oltorf, sure, the cops were at my apartment complex every evening and the guy downstairs sold ice, but what I really missed was people SWEATIN' me. Not a single hardcase in town. :(
     

Share This Page