LOL Paxil that was an excellent statement right there.. helped sway me to agree that Mengke would be a serviceable backup to Yao for the vet minimum. They guy is there to lay some hard fouls on people, and give Yao a breather. Jhoward, MoT could also spend some time playing C if needed or if we pick up Egriffin he could also be a serviceable backup. People have to realize we are not getting stars in every position or backup stars either. We just want someone who can give the starters some rest and not throw the game away. Mengke can give Yao a break and actually keep him company.. this might do alot for his morale. J
It seems you don't follow others' point very well: we are not going to give him a short contract to face two situations: 1) he gets into trouble again and gets $1M for doing nothing. 2) he plays well, and walks away for bigger paycheck. If we take the risk of 1) which is very high, we have to be compensated in a way he won't walk away in situation 2). Given the track record of EG, no team is going to give him a chance for free. He has to committ cheap labor for some years.
The point is how many incidents this guy has had thru his career, high school, college, and NBA. Do you still want to mess with him after being burnt by him several times already--weed possesion, shooting gf, cursing the Rox? And his work ethic was never that impressive. In the two years, he never improved his game a bit. He has been given plenty second chances. The Nets signed him for a Vet minimum, as you are suggesting, but only to waive him quickly soon after. The Rox should have learned lessons about him and shouldn't be wasting more time on him.
If that is what you want, Bateer is your guy. He can smash guards coming into the lane and take on anyone in a fight.
Ever took a business class? Finance maybe. U think an agent with a RIGHT MIND would let his client commit to a mult contract for the Mininum. What you smoking? He has problems, we all know that. but NO WAY u lock him at the vet min for 5 yrs like you had replied earlier.
Are u suggesting we sign Menk or some 7'0 ft stiff instead of griffin in which both cost the same amount of money?
Griffin costs more than money. He cost team chemistry, team focus with his personality, off court problems. The team had its worst loss of the season after he got caught for weed.
First, I give finance lectures in a top B-school. Second, you need to go back to take an econ class in game theory and contract theory. Having sat in a finance class doesn't make you an expert in anything. His choice is either getting no contract no money or taking on a contract that sucks. Have you seen how much a junk bond sells? Finally, did you see the in my previous post?
swong126, I see you are new here. Maybe (I am guessing) you don't know EG's history and why fans are so dispointed with him. If you were following him all along and still think the way you do, I have to say you are one of the most optimistic person I have seen.
First of all im neva said I was a finance expert. Second, you can be BSing about giving lectures in a top B-school. (O yeah and I'm the CEO of AIM) Come on now. Third, I have been a daytrader in the past and now midterm trader bc of my schedule so I dun look for junk bond, I look for high return at the same time at very low risk. You stated he is going to take a long term mininum contract. and I said, no way his agent will let him do that for LONG TERM I did state we can sign him yr 1 or yr 2 for the cheap.
First of all, im not new, just changed SN. I knoe EG history, his incidents in college and in the pros. Look at Rasheed Wallace. NO ONE WANTED HIM. Right. O yeah he only help the Detroit Pistons whooped up on some Fakers a$$. Dennis Rodman ish crazy, but he sure was a heck of a player might I say he had ALOT more problem than EG. 22 or 23 with great upside kid, worth this investment especially when we already invested so much in him. Buy a good stock, sell it out when it goes down and cut your losses. BUT buy it back when it is at its low point and ready to roll again
I saw Bateer up close against the Mavs summer league team last Saturday. Folks, the rumors are true: He is a genuine, bona-fide stiff. Can't read too much into him outplaying Pavel because Pavel is extremely raw. With his back to the basket, Bateer had one semblance of a move - a decently quick baseline spin into a muscle up layup attempt. The 2 times it worked, he didn't have enough ups to throw it down to complete the move. I couldn't call it a drop step, just a quick spin. Shaq has a similar move except that he goes glass immediately after he makes the spin. Bateer has a decent looking "jumper" (he doesn't really jump). And he does shoot from outside quite a bit but only out of necessity because he lacks the quickness to get around his man. Like all the other Chinese national team members, he has below average athleticism. He would be much more effective if he used his size to set up inside and developed a go-to move like a jump hook, but at this point he is content to hoist up 15 footers or bulldoze his way in, hoping to draw fouls. There are much better options for a back up center out there for us.
I don't need to lie about what I am and I don't need to make you believe me either. It was you who brought up business class in a rude way first. I only point you to the subject this is really about. A daytrader does not need to understand finance at all. Most you need is a fast connection to the broker that can execute orders in a fraction of second, and some statistics. You try to do statistic arbitrage but you don't need to understand finance or economics. Am I right? What do you do? Long value short growth, based on BE/ME or models such as the one from Mellon? I don't expect you to spell out the proprietary stratedies. Signing EG or not has nothing to do with the "finance" as you understand. You don't even know how to measure the risk of signing him, not to mention what return is justified.
