Not automatically, but until I see how much they paid for him, unless it was considerably more than the Rockets could pay, I don't see another reason why he should pick Memphis over Houston. Yeah, come over and back up Yao Ming, the best Center in the league. Learn from him. Win a championship with him. Then go out on your own to start somewhere else when your 2-4 year contract is up. Memphis is years from seriously contending. Plus, he will only backup Marc Gasol and he could have probably gotten more minutes backing up Yao if he is really ready to play in the NBA. We seriously want to limit Yao's minutes to help with injuries and to keep him fresh for the playoffs since he still has played year round his whole career.
True, I wonder how much we tried as well. That's why I think the Landry non signing so far is hurting us from pursuing other options that we still need to tweak on our team. Everyone agrees, I believe, that we still need to sign Deke, Landry and Dorsey; but that we also should look for another back up servicable center and possibly point guard. And again, I think if he is really ready to play in the NBA, he had more of a chance, or at least as much of a chance to get the same or more playing minutes behind Yao as he will playing behind Marc Gasol. We all know and agree that Yao's minutes probably need to be limited as much as possible to avoid continued injuries, of course considering that we have to win games first and foremost.
The Iranians I know consider themselves non-arab and non-asian, but Persian. I don't pretend to know what all of them think though.
By whom? Not by them, and not by East Asians. They like to think of themselves primarily as, like someone here said, Persians. So if Iranians don't consider themselves Asian, and Eastern Asians don't consider them Asian, that's what matters. Who cares what the school books tell you? Its you people, blind by political-correctness and technical terms who are ignorant. You can't label people by continents. Then there'd be no such thing as Middle Eastern and Anglo-Saxon. Mexicans would be considered Americans based on that stupid logic. I know the term is in areas of gray, so I base on what CULTURES consider themselves. If Iranians don't want to be called Asians, and other Asian people don't want to call them Asian, then that should be the standard. Why stop there? Russian people are Asian too. Man, I can't wait to cheer for Kirilenko! He's ASIAN!
From Hadadi's point-of-view, he'd get a lot more minutes backing up Marc Gasol than Yao. A raw rookie playing on a bad team can make mistakes that are easily forgotten. Not every international rookie can effectively come out and play for a contender like Scola.
I'd have to side with ricedaddy on this one. Asia covers too much land geographically for all of the people in it to be labelled as Asian. I am sure no Russian will label thenselves as asian, but rather as caucasians. The same goes for Iranian and all of the middle-eastern countries for that matter. They may be forced to call themselves that in the customs forms, but I'm sure no one would ever consider themselves asian in any other settings.
The wide perception is that Asian people refer to the East Asians such as China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc, or people with those physical characteristics (meaning the flat eyes, not to be racist, just pointing out the fact). A question for all. If you're Iranian, and in school you have to fill out a form and it asks what race are you and choices are given, which do u pick? It's usually white, african american, asian, hispanic, native american. I'm sure most Iranians or an other country in Asia pick Asian. Note: I'm Pakistani and in school I check the Asian box.
Whether this is an NBA Dish forum thread or not, joining the discussion. I do think it matters what people proclaim themselves to a certain degree, and its not totally "ignorance" to not know. But this has always annoyed me, all the different distinctions. If I look at a globe and your country is in Antarctica, I might have the right to think you're Antarctican. Its just a mild continental distinction, not a cultural distinction offensive to your culture's way of life. A continent is just a humongous clump of land. Mexico is every bit matched up closer to South America in culture than it is to the US. But they wouldn't take it to heart that much if you called them "North American". Incorrect as it was, no wonder people called Asians "oriental". At least it was its own separate term from the confusing "Asia" as both contintent and culture term.
Sure you can. A continent's name is just a simple identifier of the big clump of land its located on, nothing more. Its people's fault from centuries ago they couldnt think of a different term than the continent they were on to identify themselves. A school book has every right to teach that. Though all the distinctions should be taught. Telling Kirilenko "You're Asian" would be taken all wrong and raise eyebrows. Telling Kirilenko "You're Eur-Asian" would be like "Yeah, so...?" (yeah I know - You're Asian/Eur-Asian ) Though technically Kirilenko being Asian is actually more correct. As long as they both know its continental not cultural there shouldn't be a big deal. Luckily most people know the difference anyways. An Iranian I would hopefully guess already knows Iran on technicality is considered in Asia I think thats my new signature and motto, Continetal not Cultural
just like some one from argentina or brazil is american. or someone from mexico is american. the ignorance in this thread is great. did you know iranians aren't even arab?
Via Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asians Asian people,[1] Asiatic[2] or Asian Continental Ancestry Group[2] is a demonym for people from Asia. However, the use of the term varies by country and person, often referring to people from a particular region or subregion of Asia.[3][4] Though it may be based on residence, it is also often considered a "racial group"[5] or an ethnic group.[6] In the United States, Canada, and Australia, the term refers most commonly to people of predominantly East Asian, South Asian, and Southeast Asian ancestry; however in the United Kingdom and Anglophone Africa, the term refers most commonly to South Asians.[7][8] In other countries, the term is applied to all people from Asia in general. In the US, however, Middle Eastern and Central Asian people are usually not considered Asian peoples.[9] Quote over... my interpretation/opinion. " In the US, Middle Eastern and Central Asian people are usually not considered Asian Peoples. " This is correct. The only reason why I say this is correct is because it's true. US is the biggest hodgepodge of people all in one country. It's hard to label one big ass continent and call everyone the same. If Middle Eastern and Central Asian people want to consider themselves "Asian" that's fine by me since they are technically Asian but here in the US I doubt many Iranians refer to themselves as being Asian but rather Persian just like RiceDaddy7 said. Also India does = Asia but Indians like to refer to themselves specifically as Indian. I can't speak for everyone but I have a few Indian friends and they never refer to themselves as "Asian" unless they're being politically correct and filling out a job application or something. Going a bit further and it's not using the best example but it's true.... Think Harold and Kumar. What's the first thought that comes to mind? Maybe funny movie... weed... white castle... sure but how about Indian guy and Asian guy. NOT Asian guy and Asian Guy. I think it's more ignorant of mozart123 to label all of the people in Asia as Asians. Like Ricedaddy was saying you can't label people by the continent they are from. In that case Canadians would be Americans and I'm pretty sure they (Canadians) would not appreciate that much.
I love too see a Rocket welcome Hadadi to the USA, NBA style. Preferably with a poster dunk by T-Mac or Francis.
I'm a Chinese too but I don't agree with you. Since I was a kid decades ago, I have already known that Iran is an asian country. Most Chinese kids(or adults) that have some knowledge about Iran know that Iran an asian country because that's what we were taught in the school. I know maybe the word "asian" has different meaning in America, but in China, we definitely consider Iran an asian country(and also a western asia country and a gulf country).
Similar to BrownBeast99, I'm Pakistani and check the Asian box on official forms. I don't think anything else needs to be said. Just because I don't have small eyes, doesn't mean I'm not Asian.
