and i have to agree i dont think rubio will be great, BUT, like someone else mentioned, spanish players seem to overachieve, or i guess blossom late...the gasols, calderon, and even those who left like garbajosa and navarro were very solid players here, so taking that into consideration, i wont be upset if they do take rubio as long as we dont get robbed in the trade.
I have never been one to buy all the hype attached to the Euros during draft time. But with Rubio I am all in. This kid has everything. The knock on Tony Parker was that he could not shoot. You can develop that. I would be ecstatic if the Rockets could get Rubio.
Artest wants to get paid, period. I don't think he'll have any qualms playing in Memphis. He didn't complain in Sacramento. If you're Memphis, the only reason you trade the #2 is because you feel confident in Conley's development. Then you can look to move Gay for front court help. I mean, can Mayo and Gay really coexsist? Do the Grizzlies want to lock him up to a big time extension? Getting Gay's replacement opens up to trading him. Amare perhaps? Gasol - ? - Artest - Mayo - Conley is solid going forward. I doubt T-Mac is included because Memphis already has cap room. They don't need a T-Mac. They'd get heckled for trading an asset away for an expiring, again (Gasol trade)
i think it's almost a sure thing. We have too many corporate season ticket holders to have players that will make for bad press....i mean the guy practically talked about raping a refs kid in a game back home....
The Rockets may have inquired, but the main goal was probably just to gain intel on what Memphis covets and what they're willing to give up. That could be useful later in the season as the trade deadline approaches, or maybe even next offseason.
The Rockets don't have anything to offer Memphis. They'd probably want Yao, but I'm sure we're not offering him. McGrady's recovery from surgery is still up in the air, so they won't take that gamble. Artest isn't any better than a #2 pick, plus he's a risky prospect, so I don't see them going there either. No one else is good enough to headline a deal. They are no where close to competing, so Memphis doesn't have a real need for a package of role-players like Brooks and Scola. They have a great payroll. Only 3 contracts go past 2010 -- Jaric at $7.6 million, Gasol at $3.5 million and Buckner at $4.3 million. So, they don't need to shed any money for luxury tax, or 2010 free agency purposes. Their biggest contract next season is Darko at $7.5 million. Honestly, what Memphis needs most is a high lottery pick that could yield them a franchise player. And, that's what they have. I think the Clippers have more reason to trade their pick than Memphis does.
why would they move Gay? It's only his third year and the Grizz already have front court talent in Arthur and gasol. Darko is a solid back up, then they have Haddadi waiting also.....if they want front court help then all they have to do is draft thabeet....thabeet and gasol can both switch off at the 4 and 5 and arthur is a solid back up 4 and darko at 5.
I never understood the comparisons between Pistol Pete and Rubio. Pistol Pete was a shooter. Aren't some of the questions about Rubio due to his lack of shooting touch?
I mean, IF the Grizz was to make a trade with the Rockets, either TMac or Artest is going to be involved. Can Gay-Mayo-Artest or Gay-Mayo-TMac coexsist? Are there enough shots to go around? if I'm the Grizz, and I make a trade with the Rockets, I'm then looking to push Gay hard to Phoenix. Gay for Amare is as good as you're gonna get for both sides. Gay for Amare is a lot better than that other proposed Houston deal here on the BBS. Memphis could also take on a bad contract because of all the caproom they have, ie, Barbosa. Gasol - Amare - Artest - Mayo - Conley That's a playoff team there IMO That's solid. (This is all hypothetical, if a trade with Houston is to be done.
and it's possible memphis doesn't think it can get something good after Griffin is gone...rubio doesnt seem to want to play in memphis, so if memphis doesn't like what's left, it could push them to trade..
freaking hilarious that people here actually think that ricky rubio would be better than aaron brooks next year.
Even so, a player like McGrady would likely pout for a year on a bad team, contaminate the young players with a bad attitude and then bolt in free agency next summer. What is the benefit in that for Memphis?
Artest wants to get paid, period. He didn't complain in Sacramento did he? He woulda resigned if they offered him big time bucks. Amare has already stated he's interested in playing in NY and Washington. Is Memphis really that worse a team than either of the above?
i guess we also have to take into consideration the possibility of a third deal...houston could acquire the "wrong" player with the 2nd pick to trade it for the "right" player.
Bingo! I think you may have hit the nail on the head. This may be the same reason the Rockets were tied to rumors about obtaining the #5 overall pick from the Wizards as well. Both Memphis and Washington face some financial difficulties going forward. Gathering this intel now will only further the Rockets' ability to make other trades with these teams, or even to work in these teams as a third cog to a three-way deal. There is no such thing as too much due diligence.
their dream is to turn OJ mayo into a PG eventually. and OJ mayo has been nothing sort of superb last year on and off the court for them. rudy gay was fine being the #2 guy so we know jealousy... won't be an issue with him. if they do get tracy (oh man, we should all throw a parade if we could get the #2 for tracy and tracy only), i think they want to put OJ at the 1, tracy and gay at the 2/3, or even run a small lineup with gasol at the 5. tracy just needs a chance to prove himself again for another contract. so i doubt he'll pout. he's gonna be on his best behavior regardless of where he is and just perform (remember that dan patrick interview where he said he would have been fine if he was drafted by the clippers in regards to blake griffin b/c you have to be thankful to make it to the NBA). if we do get the #2 and get rubio, one of our PGs has to go and we might use them as trade bait along with battier/landry for a legit 2.
