Personally, I think Thabeet is going to be a flop, just like Kwame was. And like someone already said earlier, I'd rather trade less players and pay less money to Kwame than worry about trying to get Thabeet. I just think us trying to trade for a top draft pick is a little dumb. We need experience. Unless we can get Rubio for near nothing, ignore the draft and work on some trades.
How do you know that? Thabeet never played nba game before, he is an unproved nba player. As a backup center, Brown is enough! As DD said, we do not need to use a no.2 pick to draft a backup center!
I should of went into another paragraph, I was tailing into talking about the youth move. I know he was the one that traded for Battier but now we are trying to get younger. Perfect example is this thread, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE 2ND OVERALL PICK FOR GODS SAKES!!!
yeah that's what the internet is comparing him to...as well as dikembe mutombo....but he's definitely not a kwame brown and a dalembert isn't bad, he's been inconsistent because of his mentality, otherwise dalembert could be much better. I think it really comes down to whether you want more help to win now or if you want to gamble on a prospect who may or may not turn out to be special later on....i still think we're just trading the pick anyway, if we get it.
Well I was going to mention Rubios shooting, but I havent seen him play a game. I was mainly going off youtube clips( ) I didnt want to repeat something like that without actually seeing it for myself. As far as the height, I guess I didnt consider it as they are both guards with the same skillset(court vision, threading the needle passing) Just wondering have you watched him play or are you doing the same as me? Maybe the scouting reports have you seeing him one way and me another. What player do you compare him to? I hope you dont say Nash
Its not a mistake when your center is the best center in the NBA and he have a history with injury while the team have no other back-up center than a 2nd round pick sophomore who have played almost 0 minutes in his rookie year. I can see Rubio being better than Brooks and Lowry, however Rox need length and shot blocking inside the paint even more than an upgrade at PG. Thabeet have only a couple years of experience and he have shown improvement every year. Strength is something you can work on, just look at yao when he was drafted. But the 1 stat that really impressed me is his 4.2bpg. Can anyone get the figures for Dream and Deke collage years?
yeah but olowokandi played against weaker competition, which was a big reason why people were unsure of him, but being in a weak draft with centers in demand and being what teams wanted to build around, they took a huge gamble on him.
I agree, Ron Artest scenario 2.0 anyone? Man Morey is getting all these great drafts under his belt, he will be basically be getting a top 3 player IMO for the future for AB and Chuck Hayes. Wow! Genius pure genius. if it goes down that way, that is....
Did rubio perform well in the olympics? I dont think I was too impressed in the few Spain games I watched.
I would trade down to around the 5th pick Andray Blatche (back up center) 5th pick for 2nd Pick Filler Draft James Harden
Again....it is NOT a center dominated league anymore, it is a Wings, PGs, and athletic forwards league. Thabeet is nothing special. Rubio is.... DD
While I agree with you that at the #2 pick taking Rubio based on the potential for greatness makes sense, I disagree that Thabeet is nothing special. He is 7'3" with long arms and athleticism. He can block shots and rebound. He can dunk. He can defend against Gasol, Bynum, Odom. Rubio can't do any of that and we have to go through the Lakers to get to a championship. Yao is not enough and CANNOT carry us through a whole season. I just hope that if we get the #2 we go after the #1 cause Griffin is special, crazy tallent AND crazy work ethic AND love of the game.
DD, you keep saying you're more interested in how the player fits, but it sounds like you're leaning towards going with who may be the better overall player only......do you think rubio can be our starting point guard on our way to a ring within the next 2 years? also, if the league isn't center dominated, that tells me the center spot around the league is weak, meaning if you can get a solid center he'd have a huge advantage, so getting a good center isn't exactly a bad thing in today's NBA. Once again, i'd rather trade the pick to get immediate help, keep building up what we have and get back to the finals.. i think we also have to take into consideration the possibility of rubio going back to europe if he struggles or just isn't happy. As much as we bring up the quality of spanish players, we also have to take into consideration two solid players in navarro and garbajosa decided to go back home. Sergio rodriguez also consiered it and probably would have if Rudy F wouldn't have arrived as his teammate and talked him out it. Rubio is like a teen idol back in Spain, he's not going to be a Jonas Brother here. If he struggles early i could see him leaving and coming back once he's matured some more, or may not come back at all...
RV6, Since you think Thabeet is great, why do think he should come to the rockets? As a backup center, he only could get 10-15 min. For a no.2 pick, that's cruel! If he goes to other team, he might be treated as a franchise player.
It's the draft... if we pick him it doesn't matter what he wants. I don't think RV6 thinks that Thabeet is "great" he might be but either way he fits a huge hole in our roster.
When is the last time you see a white guy thrive in high draft pick? Hardly. So don't be so high on Griffin. Remember Bogus?? Is he any good today?? Nobody really talk about him..he sort of disappeared. Remember before the draft when he talk about how he is going to dominate the league and everything?? Now look where he is now? He's just a regular guy.
