obviously there's a lot of mock drafts so they dont all have that order ^^, but the more popular ones do....most of them dont have rubio going second though, so there's something to be said about that, when a player is going to have a lebron type of impact you draft him even if you have that spot filled, tthese teams don't seem to be looking at rubio unless they need a pg..
It would be absolute torture to acquire the #2 overall pick and leave with anybody else but Blake Griffin. "Settling" for Thabeet may be a logical option but I expect better from the #2 pick in the draft. It's a bit of a tough sell to net a player that will almost assuredly be a career role player, in a range of the draft that's usually reserved for borderline franchise players and near All-Star level talent. Although, I suppose that's just yet another testament to how absurdly valued size is in today's NBA. And to the poster above that referred to Thabeet as a good finisher: Thabeet isn't good at anything offensively. He doesn't even have a go-to post move yet. Everything he does offensively is off putbacks, dunks and from these 6'8" unathletic college centers not knowing how to play a tall, lanky goon like Thabeet so they just foul immediately. Thabeet may carry a high FG% in the 60's but that's more a product of advantages that he had in college that he will not have in the NBA.
We're not a pick and roll team. We're a team that spaces the floor with shooters and posts up Yao on the block and complements him with an active four who can finish anywhere from 15 feet in. The bottom line is that the offense is centered around yao. because of that our guards are primarily used to shoot the ball when yao commands the double team. Only when the shot clock is going down do we rely on guards to create.Its almost like the last resort of our offense because the reality is we win when yao gets more shot attempts. When we go small with our second unit we just try to push the ball and shoot early in the shot clock. Theres not much screen and roll with that unit either. I think the one ingredient our offense is missing is a 2 guard that can move without the ball and come off screens and catch and shoot from any spot on the court. Our PG play was adequate once we got Lowry and let brooks become the starter. I don't think adding rubio to the mix will really be the answer.
What are you talking about? How will he not have an advantage when he comes to the pros? He's 7'3. Its not like he's 6'10 or 6'11. He has a definite advantage with his combination of size, length, and athleticism. If you're that tall and long AND you can jump, its almost impossible to not be a good finisher. I think his offensive game will continue to develop with the more minutes he plays. He hasn't been playing the game all his life like rubio has.
That's how I feel about him. I'd rather draft a player that his biggest concern is his shot, then a player whose biggest concern is his entire offensive game. Yeah he's athlethic and tall, but so are a lot of centers coming into the NBA. Now if Thabeet was posting guys up, and scoring...then he'd be a ENTIRELY different story. Greg Oden had more of a post-offensive game than Thabeet coming out, and that says a lot to me. Also, Mock drafts aren't a good indicator on who will be better. It doesn't matter what other teams are looking for, because a lot of great players have been passed up before so Mock Drafts are really irrelevant. Lastest rumor is that the Thunder would pass on Thabeet and they have a need for a Center. So does that mean anything? As for the style we play, it will change if we get Rubio. Because he's that type of player, and Adelman is the type of coach who can handle the changes. We'll run more pick and rolls for Rubio and Rubio has the potential to be able to run a offense and have it run through him. You can never have enough of these players. Rubio helps our team more offensively than Thabeet does. You can argue that he doesn't have a shot, but Rose didn't either. You can counter and say Rose is more athletic but Rubio's vision and creativity is being underestimated here. His speed is also being underrated, as well as his crossover. Also, you can' just throw out the Olympic games, because he's played against the Best, you can't say that for anyone else in the top 1-10. No he didn't dominate, but neither did his opponents.
You would rather take Rubio over Hasheem Thabeet. Hasheem Thabeet seems like a dunk type of player with low basketball IQ. Factor into big players and injuries. If you going to pick a big men, you pick a fundamentally sound big men not a one dimensional player. Rubio is a safer and a better pick. We need a smart PG that can create shots from himself and make his teammates better. Rubio is that player.
That's why i think the player Morey is aiming for is Harden... He fits our offense perfectly... He's a very efficient player, he moves the ball, plays defense, Drives the lane, gets to the free throw line, and Can catch and shoot... I don't think there's anyone in this draft that fits this team better than him...
It's rather hard not to notice the relative size/strength/athleticism disparity between college and the pro's. If that much doesn't stand out to you then there's little hope for us continuing this conversation. That having been said, Thabeet is essentially a 7'3" stick figure. No skills, no brains, no strength. Just a line that you draw underneath the basket to stand there, block shots and grab rebounds turned into human form. Naturally, that type of player is going to tower over and overwhelm college-level competition that's generally shorter and less athletic. How is it not reasonable to presume that as those variables change once he enters the pro's that his play might suffer? Mind you, we're not even talking about some man-amongst-boys player at the college level here. He was as erratic and inconsistent as they come. He gets pushed around and backed down fairly easily. The only saving grace for this kid is his height -- it's the only reason he's able to contribute anything at all. The point is those advantages he had in college diminish as the size/strength/athleticism factors increase which means the onus is on him to improve and adapt his game to counter those changes. Given the limited upside he has, i'd say that might be an area for concern. This is all where watching him play rather than referring to some NBADraft.net scouting report from 2006 helps.
If people are talking about beeing afraid of picking up a bust at #2, then you might aswell check out bust's at #1. Both can happen.
well chances of us getting a darko as a number 2 pick isnt non but morey is a lot better than dumars so i trust his decsion and his stats. numbers dont lie but sometimes they can shadow the truth
WHy would you think that? I've seen him play a few times, he does exactly what he is supposed to, try to score inside, try to block shots, try to get rebounds - in fact I've never seen him do anything aside from that. Where do you get "low basketball IQ" - have you seen him dribble the ball around the perimeter for 20 seconds and the toss up a three pointer? That would be a silly move on his part, however I've never seen him do so. What precisely was motivating this assessment?
Early in Yao's career he used to get owned by Eduardo Najera and Zaza Pachulia much like Blair outplayed Thabeet - I wouldn't read too much into it.
Adelman is changing this team to be able to do multiple things on the court. Sure, we want to be able to spread the floor, shoot the 3, and give Yao space to post up. But we also want to be able to run an efficient fast break and get a lot more, easy, highly efficient layups off that fast break. And we also want to be able to break a defense down in the half court with our motion. Championship teams can do a lot of everything. When is the last time we had a fast break that was effective? Dare I say, Francis and Mobley..............and you could make quite an argument against the efficiency of those two on the break. So, go back before that? Drexler with the one man head down fast break throwing to Elie on the wing? Hate to say it, but you got to go back to Sleepy Floyd to find our last efficient fast break. Think about it.
To those of you dismiss Rubio's shooting, he shoots 42.3% from 3's last year in ACB. He actually has the potential to be a top shooter in this league. BTW, have you ever seen a Spanish player with poor shooting? http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ricky-Rubio-1155/
I hope you guys who want Rubio on this team were not complaining about Berry, cuz thats how I see Rubio. And at the #2 pick?
Magic Johnson's weakness was his jumper, specifically his long jumper. Remember how he shot it? Set shot. I'm not worried about Rubio's jumper. He is a playmaker that gets to the rim.
The only thing similar about Barry and Rubio is.... I can't think of anything. Their games are completely different.
Shooting Comparisons Ricky Rubio 08-09 ACB TS = 0.57 eFg = 0.46 PPS = 1.45 Field Goal Attempts per game = 6.9 Yes, Euro stats. Chris Paul's NBA stats 08-09 TS = 0.57 eFg = 0.44 PPS = 1.42 Aaron Brooks' NBA stats 08-09 (still developing) TS = 0.52 eFg = 0.476 PPS = 1.14 Aaron Brooks' NCAA stats as a 22 yr old senior 06-07 (is NCAA comparable to Rubio's competition?) TS = 0.59 eFg = 0.55 PPS = 1.34
