As mc mark noted but the Saudi Royal familiy have given money to Palestinian extremist groups and have pretty much admitted to funding Sunni groups fighting in Iraq. Just because they aren't on the US official list doesn't mean they haven't sponsored groups that have carried out suicide bombings and violent attacks on civillians in many countries. Naw I don't think you want to aspire to the level of debate like me. I'm pretentious overeducated hack with too much time on his hands. Now Deckard is a debate genius. He will break down your argument and then sidetrack you with some anecdote about great things were in early 70's.