I can't exactly remember but I think we may have crossed paths in another thread and I probably suggested you watch that triple double game again and watch Lebron the whole game. He quit on his team - without a doubt. I'm judging by your comments that either: a.) you only read a box score to that game b.) you were doing some serious multitasking and not paying attention to Lebron c.) you have never watched how dominating/agressive Lebron can be outside of that series d.) you know nothing about basketball at all ....seriously - any rational person who watches that game and knows how dynamic a player Lebron is normally would come to the same conclusion - he quit on his team at several points in that series.
The Knicks should just wait til next season, they are on a heck of a run right now and there is a chance that the new CBA might not allow Mello to make the kind of sum a extension right now would bring. Poor Denver, there hands are tied now!
I'm having a hard time believing Sheridan - he always seems to have the definitive scoop on New York coming out favorably in some sort of transaction only that hasn't really happened in a long while. I'm dubious of the timing of the story also - in the middle of a win streak(of which they have had mostly light competition). Just seems a little bit too much like the media trying to pull some strings to start the conversation again and plant a seed in Melo's head. I would like to think Melo is smart enough to realize that in relation to NY, there are comparable markets(Chicago, Clippers, New Jersey), ownership(pretty much any other team in the league outside of the Clippers is better than James Dolan), coaches(probably 10 coaches better than D'Antoni right now), supporting casts(Knicks are relatively thin and have several injury prone guys on the roster like Amare and Gallo - AND Felton is playing out of his mind right now which means he will come down to his career baseline at some point), and long term viability(Orlando and Chicago for starters). ...the whole, "why don't the Knicks wait until the offseason and sign him outright" thing is problematic because Melo wants more money(money that likely won't be there after the new CBA) and that is only done through signing an extension to his current contract. The Knicks won't be able to offer him the extension money if they wait and sign him as a FA AND I think someone else mentioned they couldn't sign him to a max contract next year outright as doing so would put them over the cap and I can't imagine the salary cap increasing significantly if the NBA is assuming control of the Hornets.
I think that's one thing Melo and his agent are not going to risk and I think that does put Denver in a position of some power - more power than NY. If could rate who has the most power right now it would go: Melo - ultimately he holds the cards but it behooves him to get an extension signed or else he stands to lose lots of money. Denver Management - Denver knows Melo needs to sign an extension so they stand to play hard ball and take the best offer they can get in a trade as long as Melo is willing to work with the trading team...but if the Knicks aren't offering much, they would really screw Melo and New York by refusing to trade him. New York(tied with several other teams) - NY can't sign Melo outright at the max and they can't force Denver to take their crap in a trade...their only advantage in this is if the rumors are true, they would be the easiest trade partner - but they have arguably the least appealing assets of serious trade partners given that Gallo is a bit one dimensional and injury prone and Randolph is looking more and more like Stromile Swift with his inconsistent play and the fact he has ridden pine most of the time for now two teams (shows maybe he wasn't just a victim of Nellie ball).
Am I the only one that wishes Denver would take a stand, not trade him, and NOT do a sign & trade in the offseason, in order to put some sort of foot down on this colluding nonsense? Screw Dan Gilbert for caving.
Exactly! He can also get a deal done at his current rate for a number of years with out clauses also. The nuggets should take chandler,the knicks pick this year and in 2013, and curry's expiring and call it a day.
Not 100% sure, but NY will have the cap space necessary. They have Curry's 11M coming off the books, plus Azubuike, Mason, and Turiaf are also on the last year of their deal. That's almost 20M coming off the books.
Lost in the shuffle of all this is do the Knicks really even need Anthony anymore? He's an elite scorer but that's it, and last time I checked the Knicks have plenty of scoring from Stoudemire etc. They need some defense, preferably at the 4 or 5 spot, and maybe another PG (though if Felton keeps playing lights out they don't) and already have a decent, cheap "offense only" SF in Gallinari. if I'm the Knicks and it comes down to Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony, I'd hold out for a Paul, even with a lesser shot of getting him, than settle for Anthony
In this league, if you can get your hands on a top 10 player, you get him. Crazy stalemate right now. Melo only wants NY, Denver wants the best deal they can get (not NY), and NY wants Melo for a trash plate. I think the only question is whether Dallas, Morey, or other swings in and rents him. And what Denver is willing to take back once they realize they have zero leverage.
This seems pretty obvious. The Rockets need to look in a different direction. What they need is defense, anyway.
What Melo is doing is worse. One played out his contract the other is demanding a trade and while doing that taking any leverage the Nuggets would have by announcing he saying he won't sign an extension if it's not the Knicks.
And once again we have people making an analogy using regular jobs to pro jobs. The 2 week notice thing is well bull****. In a regular job you don't sign a contract for your job like you do in the NBA. Terrible terrible analogy. Every team knows there is a chance that they will lose a player to free agency. Not sure why people are acting like this is new since LeBron did it. It's been going on for years.
Forgot to mention. I find it funny that Melo took a shot at Bosh saying he wouldn't do it the way Bosh did it but what he is doing is worse than what Bosh did.
LBJ led Cleveland to believe there was hope he would return. When he left, they were surprised because they had no notice. EVERYONE knows Melo will not be back in Denver, hence they have notice. There will be no Jersey burnings in Denver when he signs with New York because he was straight up with the organization and the city. You gotta respect that. Its like a guy dating a girl and telling her he might marry her someday, then 10 years later he walks away, versus a guy that says straight up on day one that he loves her company but has no intention of committing long term. The first guy gets his tires slashed and windows busted out, the second guy doesn't.
Hate for LBJ, hate for the Heat which have Wade and Bosh. Hat for Melo. Does anyone from that draft class get any love?
Not at all. In fact, this is the way Lebron should have handled. He's is pretty much letting them know he won't return. He's not dragging this out until the last possible minute to tell them when he already knows the answer. This way, Denver can still get something in return, instead of getting nothing for his past services.
