I only came in to this thread to see how many bad rehab jokes people would make. some times validation is depressing... RIP
His comment was 2 sentences and the Grammy part was his main argument. I didn't bold anything. My comment was taking shots at the Grammy and the statement that someone would brign a Grammy up as a justification of greatness for a person. I had no leaps in my argumentation, again, I told you to reply to all my points but you again come up with the tiny Grammy excerpt. I don't dismiss her talent, I just find it's not a reason for importance to society as some mentioned.
What is the point of taking a dump on her in this thread though? Go start another. This is as pointless (if not as disgusting) as using the Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals.
I didn't take a dump on anyone. Just commenting on thread discussions. That said, there are plenty of valid reasons to discuss the importance of her death, especially relative to others, who were ultimately more impact up and certainly much better role models - eg Shalikashvili - who died at the same time, but to seemingly less fanfare, at least on this site.
I dont think she was a game changer but she was definitely an important figure in modern day popular music. important enough to mourn the loss of her at least. You said: very few great musicians and artists had positive messages and lifestyles. (anyone famous for that matter). and music that has a positive message to go along with a "positive" lifestyle? Backstreet Boys/Bieber. Take a look at most of the greats and you'll notice a pattern of bad lifestyle choices and in some cases, early deaths. most of them creating their best work when going through their struggle. positive messages and lifestyles have very little relevance to good important music.
What makes Amy Winehouse an important figure in modern day music? Not trying to argue with you I seriously want to know. To me she was just another artist with a couple of good songs.
Exaggerating someone's achievement to make a bigger sympathy story out of them isnt the right thing. But I won't say Winehouse has NOT contributed ANYTHING, either. Simply, people use music and entertainment not just as a personal experience while sitting in your little pod in your study room in the basement and feeling "moved", but people use it to bring each other TOGETHER. To have some kind of identifiable common bonds. So whether that common bond contributes to society or not, or if its actually deserving of its recognition, its still a common bond feel by many people and once removed its effects are more widespread. Wish life would be more fair, but the truly deserving don't always get the recognition. I know more about Charles Manson than my humanitarian neighbor (not that we'd mourn Charles Manson...) But what can you do to fix that?
I think you want to be convinced. An artist is important when they pave the way for other artist and/or they have an original sound. Amy did both. Her sound was original and she paved the way for other artists to come. Most notably Adele. Before amy all of these singers, Joss Stone included, were afterthoughts. I also think that you seriously undervalue the difficulty that it takes to take over America like she did, being a British artist--these things just don't happen. You are proof of that when you mention that all I remember was a few good songs. Amy, even before Back to Black, was a big deal in England with albums like Frank. She had a buzz. The only thing is that her voice was unique and she drew comparisons to earlier jazz greats. So there were a combination of things. Even her self-destructive attitude lent to the mystic that her music was different. I would put back to black on the level with Nevermind and Appetite for Destruction and even Run-Dmc's original album in importance. It is a masterpiece. The other thing is the way she delivered a song and pained a picture with it, especially on You know that I'm no good, was so original it was startling. This may not convince you but these are just some of the reasons that she is important to music.
Wow........(don't know why I found this interesting).......more than half of the songs on Back to Black were produced and one was co-written by Lindsay Lohan's ex-girlfriend's brother.
RIP. Didn't really know her beyond the tabloids, and didn't really care for her music much. But it's sad when drugs really destroy someone's life. That stuff is pure evil.
Didn't really know her music other than the song "Rehab". I have seen many people's lives ruined by hard drugs. Powders, pills and hard liquor will screw you up if you let yourself get out of control, no doubt about it. It is always tragic, no matter who the person is. I hope she is at peace now.
i never heard her music till yesterday when i listened to rehab - i guess that was her most popular/famous song? - i didnt really like it at all but thats not to say someone else would of course. i had heard of her previously though as a musician but more because of her rampant drug use and when i heard the news i really wasnt shocked nor do i have sympathy for her - i do think her family and friends/fans deserve sympathy though. maybe time will tell later on if she did have a great impact on music but for those that are putting her in the same sentence as Jimi, Joplin and Cobain because they all died at 27 is an insult to those artists whose impact on music was 10 fold anything winehouse has done. Has the OD been confirmed? wasnt there an autopsy done today?
^ I'm in the "didn't know her songs at all" camp. Rest in peace, I guess? What was she famous for, aside from being in rehab or being in drugs? I'm sorry it might seem mean or cynical that I can feel bad for someone dying, but not for someone being in drugs and actually dying from that cause. I know it sounds bad, but... I sincerely don't see how it's bad for anyone to not feel sorry that she's gone. I don't see anyone "following her style" or "continuing her legacy"... as I am not sure she could have had such an impact in the music industry. So what were her good songs that I may have probably heard on the radio?
If you didn't know winehouse's music "till yesterday," how do you feel you are in position to call her membership to the 27 club an insult to Joplin, Jimi or Cobain? In short, your opinion don't mean much. You are just one of the many users who have posted in the thread that I first claim that they didn't know who she was blah blah blah and then jab at her drug use, before saying she ain't important. It's silly.
because when you're more notorious about your rampant drug use than your music to the general public then chances are your musical legacy isnt that great and does not transcend boundaries and generations as the other members of "club 27" have. and I said maybe over time her music will let her be in that group but as of right now comparing the careers and the impact that those people have had to hers is bogus.
