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Media Malpractice

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. okierock

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    Do they know that it was the Clinton administration that pushed Freddie Mac and Fannie may to lower the lending restrictions because "everyone should be able to own a home"? This is what started the housing bubble that eventually burst and is causing a global economic crisis. Do they know the the democratic congress voted down placing more oversite on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

    Do they know that the President can't stop people from overspending themselves and our country into a depression?

    Bush gets the credit for all of the above.

    I can't say I'm a big fan of Bush but if you don't think the media has demonized him to the benefit of the liberal agenda you are mistaken. If you don't think that the media is biased towards the liberal agenda just take a look at who the majority of them supported with their campaign contributions.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the housing bubble started after 9-11 when cheap money was flooded into the economy to help us spend ourselves out of recession. but i don't want to get into this debate in this thread
     
  3. okierock

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    Cheap money is a good thing if you lend it to responsible people. If you lend it to people who can't pay it back it's bad. If you make it look cheap to a person who doesn't know the difference (which is that persons fault to a degree) and later raise the rate to a criminal level that is predatory.
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    That interview trascript says it all. Paranoid, hate-filled guy creates bogus, disingenuous push survey to the cheers (and thread-starting) of paranoid hate-filled people. The guy's Cheney quotes really impress me as to his "well-informedness."

    Why did I click on this thread again?
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Were people that voted for McCain any smarter on average?

    I bet a poll along the same lines could be made and put to supposedly the most well informed McCain voters and find them as ignorant.
     
  6. okierock

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    There was no attempt to impugn the intelligence of any voters. The idea of the whole thing is to see what types of information was gathered and retained by Obama voters about the candidates during the election. It was not a push poll.
     
  7. Franchise2001

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    This is what I have gathered from this video.
     
  8. LScolaDominates

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    But the poll doesn't do that at all.
     
  9. okierock

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    So you are saying that they all knew what the GOP spent on Palin's clothing is not information that they gathered about the candidates?
     
  10. aghast

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    I came across this longform Atlantic profile of the guy behind the documentary, written four years ago by David Foster Wallace. It profiles Ziegler as a way of discussing the sordid phenomena of talk radio. (If you read it, be sure to click on the footnotes, and the footnotes to the footnotes, as that's the essence of Wallace's style.) It ends:

    (On a personal note, I find it troubling that the Zieglers out-succeed, out-populate & outlast the Wallaces of this world.)

    Relevant to this discussion, Ziegler was fired from two radio stations for saying(/spelling) Mike Tyson was an "n-----" on air, then trying to couch it in Lenny Bruce meta-lingual political correctness analysis.

    Then, I found Ziegler's detailed, career-ending rant about the last LA radio station to fire him. Its levels of self-absorption are stultifying, as he takes great pains to reveal the personal disagreements and perceived slights he felt from management and other on-air talent. He has an elephant's memory for anyone he believes has ever crossed him.

    Both pieces are fascinating in their own ways, in toto. The result of which, though, is that Ziegler is an unemployed talking head, who for some reason chose to burn all former and future bridges in the talking head industry. Coupled with that, he has a career of provocative, borrderline racist commentary behind him.

    And, now, he happens to come out to produce/promote a documentary on how stupid (mostly black) Obama supporters are for supporting their chosen candidate, without questioning his own beliefs, those of his own side.
     
  11. Faos

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    You mean like the fairness doctrine?
     
  12. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    My objection, basso, is that you have nothing to say. You have nothing to say. Why are you here?
     
  13. rimrocker

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    What does this mean?

    Nobody except winger radio hosts is talking about bringing this back. Obama has repeatedly said he would not favor such a thing. There are no plans to introduce, much less mark up and pass legislation that would accomplish this.

    The Fairness Doctrine whine is another way for wingnuts to feel like someone's persecuting them. As someone else pointed out, usually they make stuff up about Dem proposals or lie about their own initiatives, but this is a lying rant against something that nobody is even thinking about doing. Makes no sense to me.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    He doesn't know, he got it from a blog that told him he was supposed to be mad about it so he's running with that.
     

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