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MDA joins Brooklyn as an assistant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Oct 30, 2020.

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Did you want MDA to leave?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Meh

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  1. Le$$

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    The team the nets got there will be waiting on Lakers for next years finals match up, unless Curry Warriors can beat the Lakers in West Finals.
     
  2. rockets1995

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    It is always fun seeing James Harden playing 38 minutes in the preseason.

    Great Decision by Mike Dantoni, I will not miss his High Usage minutes on Harden during the season and never trusting anyone on the bench. 7 man rotation begone.

    Playoffs being even more faster, other players are more energetic and more rested than Harden for years in the playoffs. Harden doesn't help by being more lazy late in 4th Quarters.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    How is it that Nash is the HC and MDA the assistant?
     
  4. saleem

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    MDA’s value was limited by our inability to beat the Lakers. That’s the bottom line. I didn’t think small ball was good enough to win a 7 game series against them.
     
  5. D-rock

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    Without small ball, Rockets do not get 4th seed.

    And it didn't matter what system the Lakers faced, big ball, small ball, zone D, man D, switch D, the Lakers beat every team.

    Rockets actually held Lakers to the lowest average score in postseason.

    No team won more than 1 game vs. Lakers except for Miami, who only one 2 games.

    Lakers were just too good, their record in the West was no fluke.
     
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    The Tilman is cheap monkey butt stanky.
     
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    how was that possible?
    nobody wanted mostly the outcast or trash players lakers picked up who were either too old, troublesome or coudn't shoot and thus werent suited for modernball?
     
  8. D-rock

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    Some very unlikely players went smoking hot from 3 - Rondo, KCP, Morris.

    That gave Lebron and AD wide open freeways to the rim. AD's mid range was unstoppable as well.
     
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    So... no commentary/acknowledgement on your false assertion that Trez played more minutes under MDA than he did with the Clips? And just for the record his rookie season was under McHale - not MDA... but he stilled played more mins his first season with the Clips than he did under MDA...

    If you cant even acknowledge the facts... you kinda lose credibility...

    "C'mon, man..."

    lol
     
  10. D-rock

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    Meant to respond sooner but it's been pretty hectic and I forgot all about you.

    In any event, Trez averaged more MPG under MDA than he did his 1st season with Clips, that is a fact.

    18.3 vs.17 MPG

    YearTeamGPGSMPGFG%3P%FT%RPGAPGSPGBPGPPG
    2015–16Houston3919.7.644–.5221.7.4.3.33.6
    2016–17Houston581418.3.652.143.6283.81.1.3.79.12017–18
    L.A. Clippers76317.0.635.143.6264.01.0.5.711.02018–19
    L.A. Clippers82526.3.615.176.6436.52.0.91.316.62019–20
    L.A. Clippers63227.8.580.000.6587.11.7.61.118.6Career3182520.9.614.100.6384.91.3.6.912.7

    https://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2991055/montrezl-harrell
     
  11. amaru

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    The NBA appears to have moved on from MDA as a head coach (although I think he had the Philly job before Doc swooped in). MDA will be a fantastic assistant from Nash. It's the best role to maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses.
     
  12. D-rock

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    MDA will be a HC again. Likely as early as next season.
     
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    Look at games played.

    MDA had a habit of not playing Trez in a lot of games to the point where it was infuriating.

    MDA was a very good coach but he had a habit of finding a very good thing and chose playing vets over them consistently. Ben Mc couldn't get in the games this year even after House got caught with his pants down or with Russ out.

    4MPG in the playoffs that year. Only appeared in five games. Nene got 18 MPG and appeared in 9 (he got injured). Only 7 players on that roster appeared in all 11 games in the playoffs. Bobby Brown and Sam Dekker got more minutes in the playoffs that season.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2017.html

    MDA never could understand that players needed regular rest. He thought because they play without a lot of pounding in the paint rest wasn't needed. A lead with MDA as coach never felt safe because of fatigue factors. MDA also was pretty good at coaching out of a hole, also due to the fact that he refused to widen rotations. There was give and take and it was a solid run. I think you're going to like Silas a lot if you like me value a bigger rotation. He played 10/11 guys per game when he coached for that stretch in Charlotte.
     
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    I like the Silas hire, he was my 1st choice.

    But Silas had bigger rotations because he had young and/or non-contending teams.

    Even Mavs last season was barely playoff caliber.

    Many dislike MDA sometimes for very valid reasons but let's not act that his shorter rotations, especially in postseason, was unusual.

    Most of the best NBA coaches play shorter rotations especially in important games.

    And whether you believe MDA should have played Trez MORE fact remains that MDA still played Trez more minutes per game than Doc did.

    That is an apples to apples comparison because that was Trez 1st and only season under MDA vs. his 1st season under Doc.

    Trez minutes and production took a huge leap upwards his 4th and 5th seasons. This happens under MDA too, if not sooner IMO.
     
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    Most teams don't run an 8 man rotation during the regular season. That's not normal. His live game adjustments and his lack of expanding a rotation during the regular season were my only two huge gripes against him. He was great at maximizing talent and he was amazing out of half time. Silas is going to make us way better.
     
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    Rotations are shrinking, and this is also made clear by looking at the workloads of the biggest names. During the regular season, 84 players (2.8 per team) averaged at least 30 minutes per game, and just 16 were north of 35 (0.5 per team). In the playoffs, those numbers have shifted to 62 (3.9 per team) and 30 (1.9 per team), respectively.

    Key players receiving more run? Fewer end-of-rotation members consistently contributing? That seems like pretty clear-cut evidence of shorter rotations.

    Verdict: Fact, Not Myth

    https://syndication.bleacherreport....-nba-playoff-myths-are-actually-true.amp.html

    Iso ball also increases in the playoffs. In the biggest games, the best players play more and the ball is in the hands of the best players more.

    The last 2 seasons there were not a lot of blowouts so end of bench players could expand their MPG.

    But when Rockets committed to small ball towards the end of season, the rotation became more set:

    Russ/Rivers
    Harden/McLemore
    EGo/House
    RoCo
    PJ/Green

    That was a solid 9 man rotation.
     
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    Your own stat: 84 players. 30 teams. 2.8 per team played over 30 MPG. 5 on the Rockets played over 30. (That’s counting CC and RoCo as one). 3 at 34 or higher including PJ who needs to limit play as his shot was bad towards the end of pre bubble play. You need to stop with this. Whether or not rotations are short league wide, The Rockets didn’t have a rotation. It was starters and Eric + 2 players per game. It sucked. I know you like MDA. You have no defense here.
     
  18. banzai

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    Pretty much. Must have been bad enough tho.
     
  19. D-rock

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    Are you disputing 9 man regular season rotation I listed above?

    You said MDA only played 8 man rotation in regular season.
     
  20. treyk3

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    thats 8. 5+3

    Rivers went a lot of games without checking in for regular minutes pre bubble.

    Russ missed a lot of time and that’s when Rivers got more minutes. 14 games and a minutes restriction for a lot of the season.

    ‘Eric missed a lot of time. 36 games or half the season.

    Did you watch every game last year? Honestly? The rotations were non existent
     
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