He could be slightly better than Jordan offensively. But defensively they're not even on the same planet. And that's why he's nowhere close to being as good as Jordan.
This sounds like a different argument than you've made in the past. You've said that Harden needs to be taken off the ball and replaced with some like Rubio who is essentially a pass first (some would argue pass only lol) PG. Now you are saying Harden needs a sidekick like Pippen, etc. Which one is it because those are not the same thing? I, and I think most at this BBS, totally AGREE that Harden needs another good/great player that can create offense for himself and for others so the offense isn't TOTALLY built around Harden creating all of the offense.
They are closer to the same than you think. I have disgusted said Harden should be taken off the ball in favor of a more efficient distributor. I've used Pippen as an example while comparing Harden to Jordan since I think Jordan is the closest example of a do-everything offensive force that Harden is. Harden resembles Joan offensively much more than he resembles the pass-first Nash who made himself the fourth or fifth offensive option while he was making plays for others. Jordan didn't win a single championship until Pippen got there and moved Jordan off the ball in the majority of half court sets. Then they won 6 titles. Pippen was a defensive wizard whose offensive contributions revolved around handling the ball for Jordan, bringing it up, and then getting Jordan the ball in the triple threat or getting the ball to a wide open shooter or finisher because that players defender was helping off on Jordan or on Pippen's little drive. I have been very clear over and over again that the primary ball distributor could be a 3 man like Pippen was or a 1 man like Rubio is. But we have to have that guy or we are going to continue to be way too one dimensional and easy to solve for playoff opponents defense. While many of you may agree that we need another great perimeter player, most of you don't realize that Harden doesn't want that. He does not want to share PLAYMAKING duties. He wants somebody to run the offense when he is on the bench. And that's it. Harden DOES NOT want to play off the ball......period.
Well I disagree with you that he shouldn't be the primary playmaker and I think Morey and MDA both disagree with you as well. I also have no reason to believe that Harden is opposed to help from a secondary playmaker considering he specifically asked Morey to get him a playmaker. You don't have a lot of credibility with claims like these (making claims about what someone in the organization wants/doesn't want, etc.) considering your past claims like MDA not wanting Capela, Bev or Ariza and them likely being gone, KJ McDaniels and Harrell being the only guys on the roster that were good fits for MDA's system (other than Harden), claiming MDA didn't want Harden as his PG and was misquoted when people thought that's what he said (even lol said that MDA meant "in one game" when he said Harden getting 12 assists lol) If you are right and Harden won't let the organization add a playmaker to the roster (like say Gordon Hayward) then shame on him. But I don't believe that and I don't think anyone else here does either.
I can see us winning with Harden as our primary ball handler but we need another creative force that is a better #2 option than what we have now.
I think this is where most of us are. We aren't good enough yet because we need more talent (primarily a better "second best player") not because Harden has too many turnovers.
You still believe...err...know...that MDA would rather have Rubio as the team's PRIMARY PG and Harden would be the 2?
Obviously. But selling out for Ricky Rubio WILL NOT get us there. NOR Nerlens Noel. You have to wait for someone truly dynamic worth pairing with Harden. Band-aids will makes us worse, plain and simple.
Because he thinks Harden needs to be Steph Curry, even though they have little in common in terms of skill set. Otherwise, free agents such as Dmo will never want to play for the Rockets because Harden is too "ball dominant". That's why Dmo is making league minimum right now because Hardens ball dominance drove Dmo away. Dmo needs to have a serious talk with BJ Armstrong about that, imo.
lol oh here we go with another one. now it's MDA still wants a primary playmaker. aside from the select few true stars in this league there isn't a player in the league that's going to come in here and be the "primary playmaker"
Oh, Jordan shot 50% for his career You're right it is pretty offensive that you compared Harden to Jordan. Lol, did you know that Jordan shot about 50% for his career and averaged 30 points a game for his entire career. The only person that would come close to Jordan is Kobe. Harden will never be as great of a scorer as Kobe, but he can smarter offensively. Kobe's shooting percentage is worse than Harden but Kobe didn't rely on refs to bail him out and shot unbelievably difficult shots. I like Harden for our team but do not see an inkling of effort for him to get better. He has the same game without improvement since he has been here. This year, Anderson and Gordon are hitting 27 footers and Capela is not whining like Dwight.
Then it would be out of the question for any team to keep them stopped up enough to defeat them in, say, three consecutive finals games -- including two on their home court. Well, if it can't be done, then what's the point of even trying? That's why the Warriors will win their third consecutive title this y-- Um, never mind. Obviously. MDA is unhappy with Harden's performance in that role so far, and quite frankly, who wouldn't be? Amiright?? Harden's assists have been terrible, he runs the team so poorly that the other players have become disgruntled, and worst of all, our record so far has been horrendous. Any idiot can see we need to take the ball out of Harden's hands if we want to have a chance at a winning record. Cleanup on Aisle C.
I respectfully disagree. We have Gordon, Beverly, and Ennis. The reason why Gordon is so effective because he has the courage to disregard Harden when he is playing hero ball. I believe that Beverly and Ennis can attack the rim and become effective play makers if given the opportunity. I do believe, as we have seen lately, that we need a younger, taller, defensive back up center. If we can get Kostas and somehow get Korver from Atlanta, we would be set. In all honesty, I believe that it's do-able and not a pipe dream. Kostas for a 2nd rounder and Korver for KJ +1st rounder, and cash.
Oh I'm sure you KNOW that. The only reason I don't know that is because MDA is too busy taking calls from you and DaDakota to answer when I call.
Noticed Harden won player of the month which works in DECEMBER I guess but how is a DECEMBER Player of the Month honor going to get us far in the playoffs? I for one am TIRED of seeing the days go by without knowing the status of this serious conversation that needs to take place.
