McNamee to Submit Physical Evidence

I think they are both lying. However...

McNamee is a professional liar! He lied to the police during his rape case, he lied to his wife, he lied to his family, he lied to federal investigators, and he's lying now. McNamee is a FAR worse liar. He is just not a good person. Being a former cop, he knows exactly what kind of questions they are going to ask. However, just like all dirty ex-cops, no matter what, the truth will come out.

Clemens may be lying(I think he's guilty of juicing) but he's a good person. He donates his time and money to charity and he helps the Houston community. That is more than you can say for McNamee. McNamee is a slime ball and he deserves everything he has coming to him.

 

I'm mostly with you. For one thing, none of us *really* know Clemens (most likely), so we can't really definitively say what he's like. That said, I think these conclusions are reasonable--he comes off as arrogant and a little "prima donna", and a bad temper--but none of that speaks as badly of his character as McNamee's antics.

 

I agreed with you when you said it. But they are involved now and there's nothing I can do about it.

In the meantime, instead of being all pissy about it, Im going to follow it and hope that one of the liars gets their asses punked in the process. Because, in the end, it would truly be a travesty to have congress spend time and resources on this and not get to the bottom of this.

 

It's a travesty whether a liar gets punked or not.

 

I'm not saying I personally know Roger but I think his work through his foundation along with all the money he has given to Memorial, Methodist, and other Houston area hospitals makes him a good person. If he is that much of a "prima donna" then why donate all that money and time? He's at least doing some good with the money he has made while "Juicing".

 

Ken Lay donated his time and millions of dollars to charity too. What do we know of McNamee's life? Do you know if and how much time he spends on charity work?

 

Oh, it's entirely possible to be a prima donna--even a flat-out jerk--and give all kinds of money to charities. Not only is it possible, it's happened.

Some folks donate money because they're incredibly giving and selfless people. Some folks donate exclusively for the tax benefits and notoriety, and some folks are motivated by a combination of the two.

 

Andy may not testify...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/sports/baseball/12clemens.html?ref=sports

 

Do you *really* know Jesse Jackson.

 

I left out that still others donate out of guilt, and do so to appease their consciences.

Major raises a great example of a guy who donated millions but hurt a lot of people.

 

McNamee was too busy trying to rape girls, juice up players, lying to cops, and was too broke to do charity work. Not to mention, he's from New York who don't give two cents about anyone BUT HIMSELF. His OWN actions speaks for itself.


Now you want to compare Clemens to Ken Lay...wow! Was Ken Lay out in the public? Was Ken Lay at the kids wards of Memorial Hospital donating his time? Was McNamee? The only kids McNamee was around were the groupies at the nightclubs. Why can't you just compare Roger to OJ Simpson. At least they were both athletes.

 

Touché! I don't like his public actions (at least from the last 18 years or so). In private, he might be the kindest, gentlest, sincerest guy you ever meet. If so, he needs to hire a life coach or something, 'cause he's not looking so good in public.

 

Ummm, yes. Yes, he was. Maybe not at the hospitals, but dude might have donated as much money as Roger *made* in his career, or at least several years of Roger's salary, to various things in the community. It's been a long time since I read about this stuff, so I may be way, way off in my recollection. But as I remember it, it was quite substantial.

 

More proof, why would Andy opt out unless he would say something damning about Clemens?

DD

 

Now I'll agree here, that Andy opting out is pretty damning against Clemens. If he truly does not knowing anything about what Clemens did, then he'd have nothing to hide.

Then again, all he may know is that he got the idea to use HGH from a conversation with Clemens, but didn't know if Clemens was using personally. And he doesn't even want to mention that because he fears it may hurt him.

But what the hell is the point anyways. Won't the depositions given last week be made public eventually anyways? Or no?

 

What that article doesn't say and what's being reported on ESPN is that neither Pettite, Radomski or Knoblaugh will be testifying Wednesday.

I'd say that's pretty disappointing in so much as we won't get any closer to the truth than where we're at right now...unless one of Clemens or McNamee slips.

 

Not really. Whatever Pettitte said of substance, Roger will be confronted with it by committee members and asked to give an explanation.

 

Well that's why I'm kind of wondering what the purpose of not attending the public hearing is...whatever he said is going to to be revealed one way or the other.

 

Pettite's and Clemens' stories don't quite fit together apparently...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3241579