McNair set to begin contract talks with Smithiak

Seriously, some of you guys need to RELAX and accept the fact that we have a pretty damn good team that is most likely going to challenge for the AFC championship next year. You're going to miss it all because you were too busy worrying about what might happen if something goes wrong.

"Sure, we are probably going to win 11 or 12 games next year, win the division, challenge for a first round bye, win a couple of playoff games and maybe even go to the Superbowl.......BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T????????"

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Schaub is only 30 years old. He's younger than Brees, Brady, Romo, Vick and both Mannings, and just 5.5 months older than Rivers and 9 months older than Roethlisberger.

Assuming the injury isn't long-term in recovery, there's no reason not to extend him after next season. Granted, for less money, if possible. But you don't send 31-year old QBs who routinely rank among the top 5-8 in every passing category out to pasture. (Unless they think Yates is the real deal; that changes *everything* - even if Schaub is healthy, I'd think.)

 

It's a common problem. Ask Noll how life was post-Bradshaw or Shula post-Marino.
You can't minimize what having a stud quarterback does for your coaching genius.

 

Sorry but after a lifetime as a Houston sports fan, we're conditioned to seeing "potential" and "building on success" turn into steaming piles overnight.

 

I have concerns about steaming piles overnight because of what I've seen in the past. The Texans have a young defense. The Texans have an established offense with a head coach who knows how to run it.

Last season was one of the best seasons a Houston NFL team has ever had even with a 3rd string rookie QB finishing the season. Sucks that Luv ya Blue teams were the only teams ever to win two playoff games in a season. There is a decent chance that we are entering the greatest era of Houston Football ever.

Low bar I know....but I can't believe people are willing to risk letting the head coach become a free agent and nearly guaranteeing that chance ends if we lose him.

 

Why would you think they are tied to the hip in the first place? Kubiak's system has always emphasized the running game.

 

Why would you not re-sign Gary until after next season?

1. You dont have to.
2. Garys W/L record
3. Garys tendency to be ultra conservative late in games, thereby blowing said games.

Gary had 1 good yr against an easy schedule, the division had the worst QB's of any division I can remember. (Inclduding Yates. Luckily Schaub didn't get hurt until 7 or 8, cant remember, were in the bag.)

4. If Gary gets the Texans to the AFC Championship game next yr, with or without Schaub, then I can get on board with giving Gary an extention. But not until then.

 

If you (“you” in this case = Bob McNair) really and truly believe that 2011 was the start of a sustained run of excellence, then you’d be foolish *not* to extend Kubiak now.

Because if he does build on 2011, and this team does take the next step (if not several next steps) in 2012, then one of the best coaches in football (and yes, he would join that group with another trip to the postseason) would enter the free agent market with no contract, no franchise tag, no restricted access, no salary cap to govern the competition…

And if 2011 does prove to be a fluke…? Then you fire him and move on. Again, he doesn’t count against your cap; McNair’s not going to raise ticket prices to pay his dead salary… What’s the downside?

Please don’t leave randomly inaccurate things on the ground without backing it up. I’d love to hear examples of this. Keep in mind: they need to be bountiful enough to overcome any positive accomplishments and keep him from a contract extension.

I think it’s interesting no one ever says stuff like this about other coaches. The AFC South, minus Indianapolis, was a combined 181-203 between 2002 and 2009, with an expansion team in the mix, no less. Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee posted 10+ wins a total of 6 times. Out of 24 seasons. But no one ever denigrates Tony Dungy’s accomplishments.

Since 2002, the Browns and Bengals have produced 5 winning seasons between them; 15 losing with 10 of those featuring 5 or fewer wins. But I never hear anyone “yeah but” Tomlin or Harbaugh’s success.

The Buffalo Bills posted one 9-win season and one 8-win season between 2002 and 2011. They were a combined 48-80 in the other eight seasons. Miami? 70-90, including a 1-15 season during the same stretch. Even three 10+ win seasons for the Jets were mixed with two 4-win seasons and a 6-win season. Overall, they're a perfectly mediocre 80-80 since 2002. Where are the asterisks on Bill Belicick’s resume for fattening up against such feeble competition every year?

Etc., etc., etc. – I could literally do this all day long because the majority of NFL teams, in any given year, are mediocre or worse. I cited this earlier in the thread, but since 2006, 60 teams have finished the season with 10+ wins. 300 did not.

“Easy schedules” are only “easy” if you win. No one who finished 6-10 with an “easy” schedule has ever made the playoffs.

 

If you're going to use the "easy schedule" excuse for last season, then you have to use the "hard schedule" excuse for 2009 when 4 of our 7 losses were against playoff teams. And 2008 when 6 of our 8 losses were against playoff teams.

You can't have it both ways.

 

Nuts on dresser?

 

I miss HoustonSportsFan09...

 

Once Andy Reid and Marvin Lewis get s**tcanned this year, Gary Kubiak will be tied for the 4th longest head coaching tenure in the NFL. By the time his new contract is up, Coughlin will probably retire, putting him tied for 3rd longest tenure. That just sounds flat crazy.

 

Not when he has two Super Bowls under his belt by then....ooooh yeah!!!

:grin:

 

Good.

 

it's good . ..

 

I read (can't find the link) that Bob was going to give Kubiak 4 years, but Kubiak only wanted 3.

 

Yea, I heard that on 610am, Kubiaks' thinking is that after our forthcoming 2 or 3 Superbowl runs, his value will be at a greater peak for the next contract offer

I'll take that