Why not? Last year could easily have been a fluke and what will be like without Wade helping [? 1 year out of 6 . . is a good job? 1 year where the defense and defensive drafting was pried out of the cold nearly dead hands? Last year, Wade and the Defense deserves at least half the credit and neither of those guys CHOSE WADE . .. McNair did. Bidding war? who was the last coach to bolt from a winning team Chuckie? He did not leave for money . . he left for a superbowl am I lying? Rocket River
How do we know if the GM and the coach are good if they have only had one succesful season? 9-7 doesnt count succesful. Thats my point. Yes an RB is more dispensable but we arent talking bill billichick here. Specially when the xfactor in all of this is Wade Phillips.
Great, when Wade leaves Texans fans will get the wonderful feeling of mediocrity again. The excuses from Ags fans will begin all over again.
I agree with Rocket River. I see no reason to rush into a long term deal. I might tack a year on or something if he feels the need to reward them for making the playoffs once in six years, but I would definitely not extend the contract long term. Rocket brings up good points that I agree with: 1) Prior to Wade coming in, Kubiak was not a coach you felt you needed to lock up. Yes, the defense was bad, but not a single person would defend his head coaching decisions. We criticized time management, challenges, staff decisions, etc. 2) Head coaches don't get bid on like free agents. If Kubiak wins and the Texans want him you don't have to worry about some other team stealing him if you didn't lock him up. Head coaches just don't change teams when the current team wants to keep them. I hope that Bob has some kind of assurance from Wade that he isn't going anywhere if he extends Kubiak.
I mean seriously before last year . . . if Kubes was fired Which team would have scooped him right up? One playoff season later . . . which team will want him immediately? The trend is not for retreads Rocket River
Agreed. Kubiak would get a job as an offensive coordinator in a second obviously, but I see no reason to think any team would be trying to make him an offer he couldn't refuse to be a head coach. On top of that, he basically runs this organization. No team would give him that power. The trend is totally away from the head coach having organizational control. Repped you Rocket River. We don't agree much, but this time we do!
Good deal the time to strike is now. The rest of the AFC South has rookie and 2nd year QBs and the Colts will likely really suck for the next 2-3 years. The Texans have ZERO excuses not to own the division for the forseeable future. Keeping the coaching staff intact during this window of opportunity is essential.
For me as a fan this doesn't really matter. McNair has shown that he doesn't fire coaches for not succeeding. So whether Kubiak's on a 1yr deal or 4yr deal is really the same. So I can only hope Kubiak/Smith are truly the right guys. Because we're not going to see anyone else in the near or perhaps far future.
Doesn't really matter to me. If it falls apart then McNair will have to eat the remaining salary when he's fired.
In the end you're right. Its not our money. but its the principle. I know this happens in the real world all the time, but rewarding people for mediocrity? That is what made me so mad about mario williams. Yea he's a good guy but the highest paid defensive player? Just another example of people getting money without actually earning it.
When has McNair shown the inclination to eat a contract? If he gives them a 4 yr contract . . . . they will be here 4 yrs. No matter what Rocket River
And if McNair gives them a 1yr contract, they'd still be here in 4 years after getting extended 3 times. If Kubiak loses total control of the team and go 2-14 or something, he's going to be fired regardless of his contract. Anything short of total failure and McNair has shown to not care about changing HCs.
Wade Phillips is far more important to the team than either Kubiak or Smith. JJ Watt, Brooks Reed.. those are Phillips picks. Whitney Mercilus too... He has been a terrific talent evaluator in terms of getting the right guy to fit what he wants to do. We need Phillips because everything we do on defense is tailored to his scheme.
Too early. Should wait to see what happens this upcoming season before giving them any kind of extension. If it's a letdown season, it's time to let both go.
Everything Positive = Not Kubiak, Not Smith Everything Negative = Kubiak, Smith The Texans are in a great position right now. They inherited a team in salary cap hell with crappy players. It took them several seasons to clear the dead money caused by previous GM/coach combo and remake the roster. Guess what, they are back to salary cap hell because they have drafted and signed too many good players. Managing the cap to sign Joseph was all Smith. Having the offense set with cheap players to allow money to be spent on defense was all Kubiak. The team could fall apart this season, but most signs point to Houston controlling the division for at least the next two seasons.
Take the training wheels off Bob. Let Kubes feel the heat under his feet for a bit and stop taking care of him.
No one has ever said this. Hyperbole fail. Absolutely true. Just want to make sure I state that. They are in a great position right now I completely agree. The last half of that is true. They were not in cap hell though. They may have been up against the cap, but this organization is always run that way. Every year they are up near the cap. Please remember that the cap under the old CBA allowed teams to count bonuses and such to the cap that might never be paid. The caps were artificially inflated. Agree with this again. It took them a few years to totally remake the roster. It's too bad there are no other examples in the NFL of teams that changed coaches in the same decade with a crappy roster that went on to success so we have a benchmark to compare to... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! So true! After 6 years and one playoff berth you could just hear the chants in NFL stadiums of "Break up the Texans!" Way too many good players. Heck, it was almost unfair! Smith is actually not the team's capologist, but yes, the FO did a good job with the cap last offseason. And yes, Kubiak does great work with the offense, but they are hardly set with "cheap" players. Quite a bit of money was invested at WR (not just Andre) and tight end and Schaub has quite the investment in him as well. (including draft picks) Most of the reason fans feel like the Texans will control the division is because the Jags and Titans have horrible QB situations and the Colts are going through a total rebuild with a rookie QB. It amuses me that those factors = reward for the Texans head coach. He managed to last long enough for the other teams in his division to collapse and rebuild. Hooray Kubiak!
