Because our team sucks donkey balls. I guarantee you that Drayton is looking for anyone that is from the Houston area that would be willing to take a hometown discount.
Lee was more consistent than Berkman. His career is pointing up, while Berkman's is not. You are overvaluing Berkman and I suspect some GMS will also. The time may be now for a Glenn Davis like trade.
Yeah, but we have some really good talent, some of it cheap, that doesn't need the hassle of starting from scratch. Rebuilding means getting rid of Pence, Berkman, Lee, Backe, Scott, Lamb, and Roy O. Why do that? All we have to do is fix our starting pitching along with a good manager and we're right back in this thing. The starting pitching is what caused us to suck this year, not the entire team.
Comparing Berkman's numbers at this point in his career to Glenn Davis is absolutely, utterly r****dED. Comparing Berkman's career numbers to Carlos Lee at this point is absolutely r****dED. I shouldn't have to post them.... Lance is a stud... and this is supposedly an "off" year for him (which is still well above average for the league).
berkman is a better hitter than Lee. maybe not this entire year but if berkman didnt show up out of shape this season you would not be saying that.
I just can't understand this. Luke Scott has an .871 OPS this season... that's even higher than Carlos Lee! That is not fourth outfielder production. That's clearly above average RF production.
we have a lot of holes i hope he means that they will acquire more starting pitching, mainly an ace. we need some help in the bullpen also we also need a good hitting ss (especially if loretta leaves) and is burke really the answer at second base ? it sounds like we need to rebuild, not reload
Nick's reply to your quote of my post says it best. The Astros are getting great production out of Lee this year, but I'm looking toward the back end of the contract. If the Astros are going to rebuild/reload, then why not trade a slugger to a team that needs one and on top of that the Astros get prospects and get out from under that contract. I'd rather pay Oswalt and Berkman and trade Lee off. I'm not a big fan of the slow outfielder (although Carlos had a great play if RCF the other day).
no way we trade our BEST hitter oh yeah, I forgot to mention in my last post....unless Towles can do some damage next season....I want to see a new catcher. I cant believe its going to be almost 3 years since our last playoff game, IF we make it there next season
Glenn Davis at the point of the trade was considered a big time power hitter near his prime. Baltimore paid through the nose to get him and the Astros filled several hole with younger quality players. From your assertion wrt Berkman, the Astros should get more from the Berkman trae than the Davis, right? I would rather not trade Berkman. He is the kind of player that you would to see play his whole career for the Astros, like Bagwell and Biggio. But if the Astros don't trade one of their star players and rely solely on free agency to "reload" then you should likely be prepared for another season mediocrity. Berkman will also lose trade value if he stays and does not improve. In the next year's offseason, GMs will see a year older Berkman whose career has peaked.
Of course, the Astros would likely get what amounts to more than a young Steve Finley, Pete Harnisch, and Curt Schilling (what we got for Davis)... but you also have to realize that NONE of these guys went on to have their best years with the Astros, thus representing the inherent gamble when you trade for prospects. The Astros of the 90's were built primarily around Bagwell, Biggio, Kile, Hampton, Reynolds, and Wagner. They all spent time in the Astros' minor league system, with four of them being drafted by the Astros. You don't trade a player of Berkman's stature (which is far.. far... FAR more than what Glenn Davis' was) unless you're either having a salary dump, or you get another team's ace/best pitching prospect... and I don't think the Astros are in the former situation, and no team will go for the latter simply because pitching is that valued/thin in the majors these days.
Wow... talk about bandwagon fans. Go ahead and jump fantasy GM's out there. I wouldn't trade Lee, Berkman, Oswalt, or Pence. It makes no sense to do so. Trading one of those guys is like... no check that it is filling one hole by digging another. Anyone who thinks their contracts handcuff the team... I'm not going to say anything, because it would be anything but nice.
The Astros farm system aint what it used to be. If we are going to wait for the minor leaguers to arrive, the wait could be a very long one.
So, when your favorite team is in last place in the worst division in baseball what does your favorite team do? Standing pat and waiting on a depleted farm system seems wrong. Signing several solid FAs seems too expensive (for any but the Yanks and/or Bosox). So, what do you do?
hire Daryl Morey! jk, gotta trade for a #2 with what... i have no idea but i do know there are no #2 free agents, 2nd baseman burke has not shown anything this year (castillo?). resign ausmus for a year splitting starts with Towles. sign a solid reliever. (gagne?) dont let berkman eat donuts in the offseason.
it would be better to just blow next season too then you could throw the bank at peavy or santana. patton would have a year under his belt to hold down the 3/4 and you would see what you have to round at the rotation for 2009. Oswalt, peavy, patton, backe, wandy would be good.
If you're going to wait for the young prospects you receive from trading Berkman to turn into players as good as Berkman, the wait could be a very long one.
Peavy and Santana may not be FAs. If their current teams can't afford to keep them, they will get moved to teams that can and then they would likely resign with that team (as maybe even a condition of the trade). Besides even if they were FAs, I don't see the Astros winning a bidding war.
