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McHale: We want to try to give Ömer close to Thïrty mpg

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 9, 2013.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    LOLs, so what year are we talking about then. Get it right.

    JVGs first. The year MoT got more minutes than Cato. Cato was just starter because it worked best that MoT came off them bench. But MoT definitely closed the game with Yao.

    Cato only got 25mpg. Are saying Asik shouldn't get 25mpg? Cato actually played center without Yao more than he played PF with Yao. Cato pretty much only played the first 7 minutes of the game with Yao.

    As I recall, that was mainly JVGs attempt to limit early fouls on Yao.

    Your reference to that year as Twin Towers is bogus.

    So actually, your reference is stating that fielding MoT with Yao more than Cato with Yao produced no new results.
     
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  2. meh

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    Actually, I'm just saying "defense win championships" is utter cliched bulls***. If it were true, then the Rockets would've at least made it to the finals a couple of times when JVG was here.

    I honestly don't care to talk about the nuances of the 2004 Rockets team. Since that wasn't what I originally responded to.
     
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    Okur got locked up actually, as did Kirilenko ('07 series) It was Boozer going to work

    Just the Rockets cast sucked even worse. There was a game only 4 Rockets scored
    Thats all that needs to be said.
     
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    The two best power forwards Yao played with were Kelvin Cato and Chuck Hayes.
     
  5. Spiegel

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    MO Taylor and even Juwan in first two seasons here was petty good. Cato was a backup C.
     
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    Memory Lane: Clarence Weatherspoon.

    Man, 2004-05 was a nice season.
     
  7. Spiegel

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    Weatherspoon was pretty solid. He was a JVG faveriote like Oakley, Strickland, Marc Jackson, Vin Baker and Chris Childs. They all were past their primes and didn't contribute alot.
     
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    Did I just read 4 straight posts about best PF to play next to Yao and Scola wasn't even mentioned? In 2009, 12.7ppg/8.8rpg/53% (!!!) Shooting

    If 2004 Cato, any year Chuck Hayes, any Rocket year Juwan Howard, and 2009 Scola were on the team today, would you really not take Scola to be the starting PF?
     
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    He could score like 8-10 ppg. Weatherspoon was fat.
     
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    They surely need to be careful. But Lin's ability to draw and deceive defenders should work well in this situation. Of course, they need to try it out to see if it works. Then there's the other big man getting put backs.
     
  11. heypartner

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    Actually DaDakota is correct on the last game. We were down big at half time and TMac took complete control and we got the lead. But in the end Sloan went high PnR with Deron and Okur and Okur beat us with 2 or 3 pick n pops in a row because Yao couldn't cover that high PnR

    DaDakota is completely right about that.

    That said. Guarding the high PnR is not relevant to having two 7'ers on the court together or about a stretch 4 or 5. Because that is a two man game. Which means the offense can do that to is whether we play both asik and Howard on the court together or not

    Is this not making sense?
     
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    "If Ö and Dwight can play together without getting into each other's way and each remaining as effective as they are individually" >>> a very big IF IMO...but asik definitely does deserve a shot cuz he earned it
     
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    Guarding the pick and pop with Asik defending out high is NOT a problem. That would be playing right into the hands of the Rockets. The opponent taking a low percentage long 2-point jumper or even the 3-ball with Asik closing out on him. I'd take that for every defensive possession.
     
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    Asik has much greater footspeed than Yao, part of his effectiveness defensively is his sheer size AND ability to step out and hedge hard. With Dwight and Asik there wouldn't be as many concerns cause you would always have a shotblocker protecting the Rim. Not banking on many 4/5 PnRs.
     
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    Here's the thing. With Asik/Dwight there's no playmaking coming from the opposing bigs. Everything has to come from the perimeter. That means our perimeter defenders overplay and deny the 3, then simply force the drive into the paint with a quick release, let Dwight and Asik control the rim and the boards and the runout is there every stinking time.
     

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