McHale: We want to try to give Ömer close to Thïrty mpg

So 96 minutes are available for PF/C

If Dwight gets 36ish, and Omer gets 28ish, that leaves 32 minutes for Jones, Smith, D-Mo or Casspi.

It also means that Dwight and Omer would have to be on the court for 14-18 minutes per game, which is quite a lot.

 

No undecided? I want to see the offense. Defense will be great.

As long as one ofAsik and Howard is on the court for every minute of contested basketball, I would like to see the Rockets try twin towers. I am very pro-Asik.

 

I just thought this was hilarious. It would be weird if our general manager is Maury...

 

If asik or Howard has Grant's jumper, I would instantly support twin towers. But since neither do, I find your comparison not apt at all

 

Definitely need to give it a shot. If their chemistry clicks, then the other teams are in deep trouble...

 

good post.

Or we can wallow in the misery of jones and dmo. Let's be real pessimistic about spacing and clogging the lane and how asik sucks. Let all have that wanting to jump off the nearest bridge mindset. RA RA RA. I swear some of you are sadists. We got freaking howard and asik on the same team! COME ON !!!

maybe not since we have some pretty hardliners here that think it will suck.

I am a hardliner that thinks its the best thing since big tittys and christmas morning. Put your balls on table and tell us what you really think.

 

Since I'm new, I don't understand why a jumper is important. They both are the best center in the world. They have speed, power, and height/jumping power. Why can't they just post up.

I also don't understand why being double teamed is a bad situation. Last time I check it's great for the team to be double team especially when Rockets have different superstars in the team who will benefit from it.

Please explain

 

Im not sure either but something about how asik is dirt. and that howard somehow sucks too if he plays PF.

Asik has to be Center and Howard HAS to be center too.

Also they will sag off asik and since somehow harden parsons howard lin wont be able to score at all since when asik is in their its like magic potion and well will all collectively suck on offense. And if asik gets the ball he is a bumbling idiot compared to the offensive juggernauts of dmo and jones.

Oh yeah there's free throws. We will suck since Asik and howard cant shoot free throws. We are doomed and might as well let someone donkey punch us in the nuts and take our girlfriends.

 

I should have studied your post more before I made mine a few posts later. I agree with this basic concept of Bev and Asik going in for Lin and PF early in the quarter. In addition to maximizing use of best players, it will, as i said, give the coaches a better idea of how conventional, large and small units work against various teams, especially if they sub in a stretch 4 in that latter round of subs.

 

Its also funny that all the haters agree we will be good at defense with twin towers. Its like its not even a dispute.

there's the 'defense wins championships' adage but that somehow doesnt translate to dried shi**t compared to the raging advantage we will have on offense with jones or dmo.

 

They already showcased him last year. No need if they wan to pull of a trade. What they want to avoid is not having Asik or Dwight on the court because our defense collapses since there are no other bigs that can defend. They want Asik to be happy and they are trying to find a solution by giving him a little extra time on the court.

As far a trading Asik. If a team is in need of an Asik they probably don't have a tough defending power forward that they can give up and we have the same probably we have last year. Dwight sits down for 5-10 min and the opposing team rapes the Rockets.

 

if they can play volleyball in the paint, that would be unstoppable.

 

I wouldn't mind if Dwight pulled a Kobe and started to shed a few pounds to get more agile and slot in that PF mold more.

 

Misspelling the GM's name is a favorite running joke amongst some of th amphibious posters on CF.

 

Actually Omer is pretty good at defending opposing power forwards or guards,here is a video of him as a Houston Rocket where he is defending guys like Al Jefferson,Paul Millsap,KLove,LMA,Danillo Gallinari,Brook Lopez,Tim Duncan,Larry Sanders,Nene and some others

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IFNcYpKzg

And after watching this video I have to say holy **** this guy is a elite defender,if he would have better hands and a post game he would be an all star.

 

I'm all over this. Freakin two headed Godzilla...............that right there.

 

we need a poll. Hardliners on both sides.

 

Nobody is saying what you are eluding to when you say sit. You can have a good player come off the bench. You do know that right. He can log plenty of minutes as the 6 or 7 man coming off the bench. Some of us just dont see what others see. That is why this is a sports forum, some will agree and others will disagree.

You want to go old school, that's all fine and dandy. But one of these big men needs to know how to hit a 10- 15 ft jumper period.

Dream and Thorpe ( Dream could hit that mid range shot)
Duncan and Robinson ( Both could hit the mid range, but Rob was better)
Ewing and Oakley ( both could hit that shot)
Malone and Eaton ( The mail man could hit the mid range)
M Gasol and Rand ( both can hit the mid range J)
P Gasol and kamen ( both can knock down that mid range J)

You get my drift now.

Sure they can play together. Sh** they going to have to unless Asik is traded. LOL they will be on the court together a lot. I just dont like them starting together.

 

He is an elite defender. And he is especially good in space. He has absolutely THE BEST defensive footwork of any big in the NBA. The ideal defensive solution for Asik and Howard is letting Howard roam around in the paint area and sending Asik out high to check the pick and roll, pick and pop, and hound spread 4's.

The ideal scenario for Asik and Howard offensively is to let Asik play up high in the pseudo high post, similar to what Chuck Hayes did with Dwight down low. If you do that for 12 minutes a game...they will be great. This gives Dwight his balance of post-up opportunities he wants. Yes, defenses will pack it down low on Dwight and Asik will be standing there with the ball, all he's got to do is hand off to the shooter and set a screen to free them for the 3-ball. When Asik goes out, you resume the pick and roll action with Dwight. When Dwight goes out....Asik can either pick and roll or pick and pop up top and look for a cutter in the paint.

You don't take your third or fourth best player and give him 20 minutes a game. Your third and fourth best players get 30+ minutes a game. Period. Asik is easily the fourth best player and you could make quite the argument that he is the third best player on this team.

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Once again this plays into my argument that at least 2 of DMO/Jones/Smith are going to get zero playing time. Asik is a superior defender to DMo/Jones/Smith ANYWHERE on the floor....ANYWHERE! So if you need defense at the 4...Asik is the best option.

Asik is a superior rebounder to Jones/DMO/Smith....at any time in the game....ANYTIME! So if you need boards at the 4...Asik is the best option.

And Parsons, Garcia, and Casspi are superior shooters to DMO/Jones/Smith from distance! So if you need to spread the floor with a shooter at the 4....one of Parsons/Garcia/Casspi is going to be the best option.

At least 2 of Smith/DMo/Jones need to be traded and possibly all 3 guys moved out for a better combo PF, a better 3 and D power forward.

 

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=9793212&src=desktop

"The next move that Morey makes might end up playing a big role in just how far the Rockets are going this season. Specifically, they have a valuable trade chip in center Omer Asik, and what they end up doing with him could alter the balance of power in the Western Conference this season.

The first experiment seems to be more formal than anything. Coach Kevin McHale intends to be play the 7-foot Asik and the 6-9 (by his admission) Howard together for stretches.

"If it works really well, it'll be a lot. If it looks like crap, it won't be much," McHale said of how much he'll play his two true centers. "We're going to find out and we're going to give it every opportunity to work."

In theory, this pairing would create a rebounding powerhouse and a defensive wall around the rim. Howard led the league in rebounds per game last season, Asik was third. Howard is routinely among the league leaders in blocked shots, and Asik is a strong post defender.

In practice, however, it seems unlikely to work. McHale, Morey and Howard probably know this. We know Asik thinks it won't work because he demanded a trade this summer -- though he declined to elaborate on it when he arrived for training camp -- because he knows his playing time is probably about to be slashed.

Asik is a poor offensive player, and Howard, despite his attempts to improve, remains a poor shooter outside the paint. At the free throw line, these two have the chance to be one of the most atrocious tandems in league history. Last regular season alone, the two combined to miss 497 free throws. Playing them together at the end of a close game is inviting ruin.

There's also the basic strategy that with Howard you want to stretch out the defense with shooters and not allow multiple defenders to hang by the rim. That goes for Harden, too, because he's terrific when he has space to drive.

McHale got a lot out of playing fast and small last season, and he's got several players who can play power forward who fit that system better than squeezing Howard there. In addition to veterans Francisco Garcia and Omri Casspi, there's also some intrigue within the team over second-year forward Terrence Jones and rookie Robert Covington. All of them can play power forward and stretch the floor with Howard."