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McHale has finally broken the camel's back

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pollaxt, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. PainNoLove

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    Oh, you can most certainly criticize the head coach- that's a right given to you. I have the right to dismiss your opinion for exactly what it exactly is- An uninformed opinion.

    The NBA is results based and McHale so far has won more games than he has lost, with the youngest team in the league, with the second best player on this team being Asik or Parsons... that is impressive in and of itself.

    McHale trusted his bench to maintain a lead the bench helped build and they won. In the process, he got Lin and Asik rest while giving our bench a chance to prove themselves in a tough situation. The difference between the regular season and the post season is like night and day. Coaches typically shorten their bench to only 8 or 9 men. At the moment those 9 are probably Lin/Harden/Parsons/Smith/Asik with Delfino/Beverly as the only two sure bets on the bench. So Thomas Robinson vs Donuts, Garcia vs James Anderson, etc. have to take place to shorten up the depth chart come playoff time.
     
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  2. cw3k

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    This is a bunch of bulls. The Rockets is not even clinch the playoff yet. There is still a chance that it knock off the play off if every game is lost. Why not just secure the playoff before doing something this stupid. This is no excuse other than McHale is clueless and not a good coach.

    If you are confused the Rockets with the Heats, then I understand. Heats can loss every single game and they still clinch 1st seed.
     
  3. Morlock O

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    I think that is why I said fighting for the spot... his minutes was very inconsistent at that time...

    you may be right about greg smith, but still Mchale always preached that he will play the hot hand... who ever if performing better... but this last game he changed his tone...

    Please do carry on... if i have stated any more erroneous information lol

    when you said to hand in my resume as a coach that is not dismissing my uninformed opinions...

    I don't think my original post in this thread was about mchale's performance for the whole season, but about his performance last game...

    you keep talking about post season, our place is not even secured yet... why not worry about winning the damn game first before worrying about playoff rotation... I mean with all the technology we have now can't he decide the rotation based on past performances? I think he now has a good sample size to make this judgement right? does he really need to use the last game to figure it out?...

    anyway, We can agree to disagree, imo what mchale did last game was a high risk with very low rewards and is not needed... and his explanations during the press con was inconsistent with what he has been singing all year... so i don't buy it...
     
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  4. J Sizzle

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    If you're going to try to criticize somebody's...probably a good idea to not come off as completely illiterate if you want people to take you seriously...
     
  5. PainNoLove

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    Where exactly is the fight? It's not like minutes were anything near identical. Douglas was getting minutes that Aaron Brooks gets now. I guess Brooks and Beverly are fighting for 2nd PG duties :rolleyes:

    I am certainly right about Greg Smith. The only time Aldrich got minutes after the very beginning of the season is for when Smith got into early foul trouble (and Asik needed a break) and when he was sent down to the D-league for some that I can't recall.

    Same logic applies. We won the game, our 2 best active players for the game got to rest, and our bench was able to show what it can do. Let's not forget that the bench helped build that lead. They deserved a chance to sort themselves out through playing.

    Considering the how much our roster has changed, anything other than maybe our starting 5+ Delfino likely has too small of a sample size to judge how well they can actually perform. Thomas Robinson and Garcia arrived not that long ago, same with Beverley. Donuts has been between the D-League and here all season, but it wasn't until the Patterson/Morris trade that he has been able to get enough minutes to judge what he can bring to the offense/defense in game situations.

    Technology is only good for so much, and the data only gives you an indication to what has happened, not what will happen.

    And our playoff position is pretty much secure, only real question is seeding- Anywhere from the 6-8 seed. I know when people type things like this someone feels the need to say 'jinx' but I'm not superstitious.
     
  6. sirbaihu

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    I'd think decisions that resulted in a loss would be dumber than one that ended in a win, but I'm sure we have different standards of "dumb." By the way, I've discovered the "ignore" function and you're #2 on my list. Please add me to your "ignore" list.
     
  7. Fyreball

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    I am very in tune with advanced statistics, and I have also watched nearly every single game this season. I never once stated that McHale was a good to great coach.....however, I also think it's absurd to let advanced statistics completely guide you when making an assessment. Blowing big leads, and under-performing in crunch time are the BENCHMARKS of a young team, and we're just supposed to forget that, and blame the coach for it all?

    The Clippers comparison is absolute apples and oranges. Chris Paul is the best point guard in the NBA and a veteran, they have one of the deepest, most experienced rosters in the NBA, and are title contenders. Vinny Del Negro doesn't HAVE to be a good coach in order for that team to succeed. The Rockets on the other hand, have the most inexperienced starting 5 in NBA history (that's called hyperbole, in case you wanted to take that condescending tone with me again), so for a BAD coach to coax 41 wins out of this team to this point seems HIGHLY unlikely. I'm not going to pretend that I know what goes on in practices and team meetings, but I can sure as hell tell you it's not NOTHING. While the talent on this team is there, it's also not good enough to just get by without any semblance of coaching. As average as McHale might be in his X's and O's, I think he makes up for in his understanding of player psyche.
     
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  8. roslolian

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    There's no point in getting to the playoffs if we have no bench, you think our starters are good enough to beat a Western playoff team just by themselves? Majority of our wins have come with a bench guy or two catching fire and blowing up, we need the bench to win games in the playoffs.

    There's no point in getting to the playoffs if Mchale would have to burn out his starters to get there. It'd be better to just tank and get a pick.

    Also we won the game! What kind of clueless coach and ends up winning the game? :rolleyes:
     
  9. vorpal

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    Didn't he have a 38 -105 record prior to this, with the team he created his way?
     
  10. PainNoLove

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    I think you misread Wiki. He wasn't the coach the entire time after of the firing.

    Also, you forget context.

    "On December 8, 2008, after a 23-point loss to the Los Angeles Clippers that dropped the team to 4–15, the Timberwolves fired head coach Randy Wittman and Kevin McHale took over. McHale also relinquished his vice president of basketball operations duties. It was unclear whether McHale's future with the team was dependent on the success or progress of the team which he had put together over the previous four years.

    Those questions seemed to be answered when the Timberwolves went 10–4 for the month of January, giving McHale the coach of the month honors. But on February 8, 2009, the team's main star Al Jefferson tore his ACL in his right knee in a game at New Orleans, sidelining him for the rest of the season. At the time of the injury, Jefferson was having his best season to date, averaging 23 points, 11 rebounds and 2 blocks.[35] Without Jefferson and Corey Brewer (who also suffered a season-ending injury), the Wolves sputtered, to finish with a 24–58 record"
     
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  11. PainNoLove

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    OP is the camel.
     
  13. WinkFan

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    during February, before the trade, Cole got 51 total minutes, and Smith 18.
     
  14. PainNoLove

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    As I said in a previous post
    "The only time Aldrich got minutes after the very beginning of the season is for when Smith got into early foul trouble (and Asik needed a break) and when he was sent down to the D-league for some that I can't recall.

    He was sent to the D-League in February
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=233580
     
  15. BasketballReasons

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    McHale is a freakin' r****d! Ugh so pissed at the guy!

    Harden returns from injury... plays Harden 40 minutes!

    WTF? You trying to kill this guy?
     
  16. Fyreball

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    If Harden and Parsons didn't play 40 minutes, we would have lost the game. Also, they're 23-24.....not 33-34. It's not going to kill them. Get a grip.
     
  17. HadToDoItCF

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    Yup, trying to kill a guy with a foot injury who is playing basketball. I'm surprised James Bond hasn't tried this out yet due to its effectiveness.
     
  18. WinkFan

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    Yeah, that was because Aldrich took his job.
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    You people don't get it. Kevin McHale IS the camel's back.
     
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  20. Jedster

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    Oh man, all this time I thought he was the front hump.
     

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