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McGrady's rep among players

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Hakeemtheking

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    Absolutely best post of this thread. Tmac to the canvas!
     
  2. Zboy

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    Whoopdeedoo.

    The other guy is counting his rings.
     
  3. meh

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    Wow, never expected to see a Horace Grant lovefest here. Look, I respect Grant as much as anyone, but let's not go overboard here. Counting Rings, Grant can't hold the jockstrap of Robert Horry. So does that mean Robert Horry can complain about other players' defense whenever he wants?

    Personally, I think going to the media anonymously is douchebaggery and a cop out no matter who you are, even if you're MJ or Hakeem. I would actually felt T-Mac was wronged in the situation, if his response wasn't 100000 times worse than Grant's actions.
     
  4. MambaJoe

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    Tmac has his ups and downs. At one point in his career, he was considered the most talented player in the NBA. Even more talented than Kobe Bryant.

    Yes, he is an amazing talent. But sadly, his work ethics and his laziness put him in the position he's in right now. Its sad to see what a waste of talent. The Rockets acquired one of the best talents the NBA has to offer. The Rockets probably acquired the most talented player ever in the history of this team. But sadly he took his talent for granted. For a guy that talented, it is a waste to see that talent be put to waste.

    It is nobody's fault but his. He took his talent for granted. He knew how talented he was so he thought that he doesn't need to work hard in the off-season because he is good enough. Yes his talents combined with a lazy work ethics lasted him for a decade. Even though his talent will always be there, his athleticism would not.
     
  5. albuster

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    Yeah and Michael Jordan can't either ha? Your reference to Horry was out of context, and even if it was, then by your logic Horry must be the greatest player ever. Look who is talking about being a douchebag by talking to the media. Remember Stephen A. Smith and the announcement that McGrady decided to have microfracture surgery after extensive doctor shopping? It is really mind boggling to what extent McGrady apologists would go.
     
  6. Stack24

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    I have to agree with a previous poster that all these years of being a fan. Well over 25 years btw, have i been happy to see someone leave the rockets.

    I was happy that Pippen left but that's because he just stunk it up. This is the first time that a person has just been a cancer to the Rockets and can't wait to be in good health when he is gone.
     
  7. bbjai

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    The article in SI is by John Lopez

    LOL not even an actual SI Writer
     
  8. goodbug

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    So? if 29 points ain't enough,try to score 40. Superstars find a way to win, they may not win every time, but they win enough times to prove their worth. It's first round we are talking about. And there's no one in NBA history that never passed 1st round should be called superstar.

     
  9. Shroopy2

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    I've said a few times, that '05 had tough minded professional veterans that didnt give one crap about what McGrady thought and would lynch him if they had to. They did their thing, McGrady just played ball like was supposed to do. And being on a new team in a new town helped. Once he got comfortable...

    That theory still doesnt explain McGrady taking himself away from the same group of guys with the bizzare back injury-Waco witch doctor incident. And Horace Grant was as respected a vet as there was. But McGrady having "knife fighters" around him instead of marshmallows keeps him in check.
     
  10. Shroopy2

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    That wasnt a great thing Horace Grant did there. I'm sure at that point when he did it, he probably played so many years in the league, won so much and made so much money that he didnt give a crap anymore. That probably was his role that point in his career, veteran vocal leader. Its not something too far away from what Mutombo could have done.

    If its about the person being credentialed enough to make the statement, consider Horace Grant played WITH Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen. Played with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, played with Gary Payton. Played against the Bad Boys. Played against all members of the entire ORIGINAL Dream Team.

    You think he's gonna be impressed in the least with Tracy McGrady?
     
  11. Rocket River

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    Shawn Bradley. . . .really . . .well since you put it like that . . .

    Maybe he could own Manute Bol or George Muresan
    maybe Chuck Nevitt too


    McGrady is like a friend that can loan ya 5$ here and there
    but
    When you in the most dire of straits. . he will never come through
    Sure u appreciate the 5$ but when it is GAME TIME he is not your goto friend

    Rocket River
    . . . not like he owned anyone important when it counted
     
  12. Rocket River

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    ONE MORE THING . . .
    I think it says something about McGrady
    because either
    1. a TEAMMATE felt he could not come to him and say it [which he was obviously right[
    or
    2. a TEAMMATE probably tried to tell him before and he did not listen

    these things don't come out of the blue

    Rocket River
     
  13. jo mama

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    no, but when someone w/ multiple rings, who has gone deep in the playoffs most seasons of his career and has played and practiced w/ some of the all time greats day after day calls you out, you might want to pay attention. they know what they are talking about.

    was mcgrady being a douchebag when he went to the media to declare season ending surgery before telling his team (bosses)?
     
  14. RocketsPimp

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    It's a simple argument when it comes to the Grant-McGrady discussion.

    Grant - helped his team win the ultimate prize

    McGrady - talked about getting to the second round, however he has NEVER helped his team do so

    Grant FTW. T-Mac just needs to go away.
     
  15. Summer Song Giver

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    But we don't know the full context of the situation, or to put it a better way all of MAC's behavior around the team, was he a guy who you simply could not talk to or constructively criticize in person? I get bent out of shape over a lot of things that are brought to the media but you don't know, maybe Horace had tried talking directly to TMAC and his response was that of the superstar who didn't think a role player had any place questioning his game, whether Horace was a veteran with rings or not.

    I think you have to look at history of each and make your determination that way; on one hand you have a long time NBA veteran who garnered multiple rings with probably one of the most demanding teammates ever in MJ and on the other you have a guy who has burned every team he has played for, draw your own conclusion but I know where I stand.
     
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    Dream had some shaky years with management where his injuries were pretty openly questioned, I am glad that things ultimately got better in that situation and in TMAC's case I am glad that they probably won't.
     

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