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McGrady:'When did wanting to play become a problem?' Here's the answer [Chron:Feigen]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by optAmystik, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. Dave_78

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  2. t_mac1

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    no he doesn't know how to evaluate. you're right about that.

    but he's a basketball player. and i'm sure he knows how tracy played before, and how he looks in practice now (which he did compare in his quote). if you can play basketball, you can play basketball. if tracy sucks, he sucks. it's that simple.

    and i'm sure ariza knows a thing or two about all-star level of play. he played with only the best perimeter player of this generation. if ariza thinks tracy can get back to that level, well, that's HIS opinion.

    you don't have to believe ariza.
     
  3. Shaud

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    Well for one I don't know how McGrady will be when he comes back. I never made a prediction.

    All I'm saying is I will listen to someone who is guarding him in practice over some message board guy that has never suited up in the NBA.

    That is all.
     
  4. Dave_78

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    Just a list of those players I keep asking for would be nice.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    um... explosiveness comes with more reps, and yes, with more conditioning. and tracy said the same thing. he admitted he won't return to his old self "right away."

    but elson turner said they want tmac to be back to the all-star tmac.
    ariza said tmac will return to that all-star tmac.
    grover said he'll be back to the all-star tmac.

    so believe who you want to believe.

    i think he won't be back to his old self in the first month or so b/c he has to regain confidence in himself and that can only happen when you play real NBA games. when he does start to regain that consistency, i expect him to return to all-star level.

    again, you don't have to believe it. that's your choice.
     
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    That's not what his promotional videos on "skillzlab" were leading us to believe. That was painting a rosy picture of McGrady turning back the clock 4 or 5 years.

    Not much credibility there, don't you agree?
     
  7. Shaud

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    John Stockton was still solid after having the surgery.

    But still point me to where I said he would return to old form?

    I'm just pointing no point in whining over people quoting what Ariza said.
     
  8. Shaud

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    Edit : I'm just saying not point in whining over people quoting what Ariza said.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    i'm sure he can drop 25-30 pts if he played right now. but can he consistently do that?

    an all-star is consistent. last year, even tracy had some really dominant games, marred by some really bad games. if grover did rehab him properly, as he plays more games, he'll regain that consistency.

    again, i still think he can regain his all-star level (AT LEAST 07-08 and he was injured that year too so he can be better than that i believe).

    but again, we'll see. i guess tmac wants to play now so he can regain that consistency.

    the team wants him to regain that consistency in practice. so when he does play, he's already back to his old self (according to elson turner yesterday anyways).
     
  10. HTownTmac1

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    i agree with EVERYTHING you said BUT one thing... 8-6 with the schedule we just had is amazing if you asked anybody in the world... we have prob had the toughest schedule in the nba so far. (not just the teams, but how many back to backs and away games we had)
     
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    Sorry to the Francis fans that had to read that. :grin:
     
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    Im not saying anything other than just giving some facts - Some people are trying to put the argument out there that we need T-Mac back only so we can win these late close games because he is the go-to guy and clutch. If you look at the numbers, reality is, no one is absolutely reliable and clutch.
     
  13. BMoney

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    Weren't you the one who was all doom and gloom about Ariza? Your player evaluation skills aren't exactly bullet proof.
     
  14. number22

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    fair point
     
  15. rockbox

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    If T-mac is ready to play, he should have no problem abusing Budinger and this year's Battier in practice. That what stars do. They abuse people trying to defend them one on one. This topic shouldn't even be a discussion. Tmac doesn't bring intangibles. He's not Battier and not Vince Young. Every positive thing he does shows up in the stat sheet. Tmac is a volume shooter. Remember this is the guy that blamed his poor shooting on not being able to jack up 20 shots a game like he used to. If he can abuse Bundinger in practice, then its time for him to get on the floor. We don't need him chucking up 20 shots a game at an inefficient percentage to see if he is ready.
     
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    Oh, he doesn't have it now so he never will again. I see!!
     
  17. SuperStar

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    Meh the clutch stats at 82 games is a way better indicator of a good closer.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
     
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    Exactly. I and most others don't believe that Mac will ever be dunking on people the way he did on Bradley anyway. What I remember is that, in the playoffs, Mac was the only one showing up against the Jazz, and I remember that he dropped like 40 on one wheel based on pure skill. I think that he can use those skills to help the team, and I want to see him run with a team that is this deep and talented. If I'm wrong that sucks, not just for me, but for any fan of the Houston Rockets. This may not even be worth discussing because he may never lace up for the team again. If he does however, I believe that he has the skills to contribute as long as he is healthy enough to play defense and run the floor. I don't believe that he is, and I think that that's why Adelman is holding him out, which I don't blame him for either. In time he'll be in shape to contribute again however. Will he be a $23 million player again? Probably not, but I think that it sure would be nice to resign a guy with his skills for a considerably lower salary if he can contribute the way that I believe he can.

     
  19. TeamUSA

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    ignorant and arrogant.
     
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    A: when your team is already doing good without you.
     

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