McGrady To Houston Thread (Update: Francis will visit Orlando)

*Shiver*.

 

Now thats a fan!

(Side note: what country)

 

Does anyone here want to shank chad ford, he needs to stfu. He doesnt think Tmac will be playing for us.

He thinks the clippers will get him. Jesus Christ, I know he is a dumbass but i just want to mail him a pipe bomb.

 

saudi arabia... plus im waiting for tim redding to blow another start.

 

Nah let him live, its fun to chant Vescey Sux, and it would be fun to add him to the list. Then again I didn't pay for ESPN Insider, so i guess i don't have all that much of a reason to be ticked.

 

must resist...too easy!

 

610's Matt Jackson plans to have the Orlando Beat Writer on tonight to do an interview about McGrady. Should be interesting to get his perspective.

 

Heres the bit from his article from espn inside

T-Mac to the Clippers?

Shaq leaving. Kobe staying. What, you ask, does T-Mac have to do with all of this? He reportedly has told friends his ultimate desire is to play with Shaq. That's not going to happen in L.A. T-Mac has looked to Dallas as a possible destination. Unless the Magic are willing to swallow an equally bad contract in return -- and they're not -- it just doesn't make sense. They'd want Nowitzki for T-Mac the same way the Lakers would for Shaq. It's one or the other.

McGrady may be controlling the process -- no team will trade for him without a guarantee he'll sign an extension -- but the Magic are partners too. They don't have to trade McGrady right now. T-Mac wants out and knows he has to work with the Magic to make it happen. Where will he land?

Option 1: The Rockets are rumored to be in the lead, offering a combo of Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato for McGrady and Juwan Howard. That sounds like a fantasy trade that every other owner would veto. We know John Weisbrod is a hockey guy, but even he should know this is a terrible deal for the Magic. If the Rockets pull this off, pencil them into the Western Conference Finals.

Option 2: The Pacers want to get something done but aren't giving up Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender and Jamaal Tinsley for T-Mac. It's just too much. The deal would be Harrington and either Artest or Bender. That's as far as they're willing to go. The team doesn't really want to trade either Artest or Bender, and they certainly won't ship away both players -- even for T-Mac. Add Harrington and Bender to a front court with Emeka Okafor, and the Magic could be set for a long time. They'd have to seriously consider it.

Option 3: The Suns are willing to give up Shawn Marion, Casey Jacobsen and either the No. 7 or Joe Johnson for T-Mac. Marion is an all-star caliber small forward. With the No. 7 pick, the team could land a top-notch point guard like Devin Harris, Ben Gordon or Shaun Livingston. Jacobsen is serviceable at the two. Put that together with the No. 1 pick -- an Okafor/Gordon reunion, perhaps? -- and the Magic would be back in the playoffs almost immediately.

Option 4: The Clippers may have the best package to offer, but would T-Mac play there? One source close to McGrady told Insider he'd "consider it." Why? Because the huge media market would make his endorsement opportunities much more lucrative. The Clippers also would have a pretty strong starting group with Elton Brand, McGrady, Chris Kaman, a re-signed Quentin Richardson and Marko Jaric. The team would be willing to give up Corey Maggette, Chris Wilcox and the No. 2 to get McGrady. That's a slam dunk for the Magic, who could draft Okafor and either Dwight Howard or Shaun Livingston to make one of the best young teams in the NBA. If McGrady believes the Clippers will keep spending, it would be an opportunity he'd have to consider. It may be the only way the Clippers are willing to do the trade.

Which way will the Magic go? The Suns, Clippers and Pacers all look like they could make offers that might make Weisbrod pull the trigger. Some of it will come down to T-Mac's preference. He wants to play in Houston, but the Rockets' offer isn't close to those of the other three teams. At the end of the day, I see either the Suns or Clippers landing him.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&id=1825472

 

Cool, what games do you guys get over there? I mean only certain rox games (nationally televised), or do you have a subscription service. I had a friend from Lebannon and I think he had a satellite package or something

 

LOL, sorry wrong thread

 

classic!

 

I know I'm the minority in this opinion, but I wish....I wish.....the others in the trade were Gooden, Gaines and Pachulia and not Howard, Lue and DeClercq. Gooden has more upside than Howard. Pachulia, just 20 years old, gave us fits in a game last season, and Gaines has the height and pedigree despite his disappointing rookie year. Just think what they could do under JVG's tutelage!

On the other hand, Jawon Howard is an underachiever of long standing; Lue is barely six feet in shoes and a defensive liability, and DeClercq is a second or third string center on second-rate teams. I'm disappointed if this is they are the Mobley/Cato replacements.

 

anyone have Chad Fords email address. I used to but lost it

 

well i really hope we get to see the t-mac that cared about basketball and not the guy who mentioned retiring not too long ago. if we do we can really see someone who can be great.

second i feel bad for francis and mobley. i know its a consensus that we had to move them for the rockets to get better, but these guys gave their all. francis may have been boneheaded at times but you could never question the guy's heart at all and that is something i respect. t-mac has serious issues with his passion for the game. i hope they go away when he comes here and i hope van gundy doesn't let any of that crap slide. t-mac is an all-world talent and i hope he comes to realize that on both sides of the ball as a rocket.

 

WTH is he talking about? He thinks TMac and Howard are that much more valuable than our guys? B.S.

 

You forgot to mention Tmac as one of those replacements also. THe price is high and everyone knew that, but hopefully it will work out for the best for everyone. I dont think Lue is that much of a defensive liability, I still remember him hounding AI during the finals.

 

You are right. Local 610 sport dudes were saying Juwan Howard was not on Orlando's unprotected list. Deshaun Stevenson, one of their foreign players, and Reece Gaines were on their unprotected list. So it has to be Reece Gains who the Rockets are hoping to include in the deal.

 

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/06/21/sports2001EDT0407.DTL

"The Rockets were said to be the leading candidate to acquire McGrady from Orlando, with officials from other teams saying Houston was offering a package including Francis, Cuttino Mobley, Kelvin Cato and/or Bostjan Nachbar for McGrady, Juwan Howard and Tyronn Lue. Because of league salary cap rules, such a deal could not be finalized until July."

 

BOKI STAYS!!!

 

ESPN radio reported that Derek Fisher just opted out of his contract.