McGrady To Houston Thread (Update: Francis will visit Orlando)

Lue is terrible! We need a better PG

 

we will get a better PG, we still have assests, the MLE and the TE. I'm just glad we'd get a backup center (one less thing to shop for). Also does this mean that WIlks isn't back, i mean we would have Ollie, Lue, and Wilks. I'd like to upgrade and get a better pg, Damon Jones would be cool (as previously stated).

 

Better than anything the rox had last year.

 

Damon Jones would be great, maybe even Barry since he's such a great 3pt shooter

 

This is obviously wrong. No way the Rockets leave Mobley unprotected. If it's true, then the deal will be off, because the Bobcats would be r****ded not to take Mobley in the draft.

 

It only says it's 1 hour and it repeats 6/23 at midnight and 11:00am.

 

First, I find it impossible to believe Mobley was unprotected.

Second, I find it double impossible to believe the Bobcats wouldn't pick him if he was unprotected.

Then again, Doc Rocket said we wouldn't need to include Cat in the Orlando trade but might actually want to include him anyway for reasons he didn't understand yet. I guess it's possible those same reasons might have landed him on the ED list.

More likely, I think, the ESPN report only singled out SF and TM as known protected players since the actual list isn't public.

 

if we wind up wit Lue and DeClercq, this trade rocks. there goes the "we're gonna have no depth" arguements.

 

LMAO!!! You Rock!

 

That is very odd Mobley is on the unprotected list. I thought the list that was put out by Insider was the actual list. I guess not.

 

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2639475

Rockets near deal to trade Francis
By JONATHAN FEIGEN
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle



No longer "The Franchise," a clearly disappointed Steve Francis braced himself today to no longer be the Houston Rockets' point guard.

Francis' agent, Jeff Fried, said today that Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson had told him the trade to the Orlando Magic for Tracy McGrady was not complete but was close. The deal could also include Kelvin Cato and Cuttino Mobley and bring forward Juwan Howard, but other than Francis and McGrady, players involved could change depending on salary-cap requirements that were still uncertain.

"I spoke to Carroll and it was not a done deal," Fried said. "It's close. It's subject to a few contingencies."

Fried said some maneuvering involving Tuesday's expansion draft was necessary to make the deal work. Because Steve Francis is considered a "base-year" player, by using a team such as the Bobcats that are under the salary cap, the Rockets could deal him without waiting until July 1 when his "base-year" status expires.

Francis, however, left little doubt that he wanted to remain in Houston.

"I thought we were really building something, something very good in Houston," Francis said. "Obviously that's not the direction they want to go. I still think we could be a very good team.

"I'm not crying. Like I told you before, I know this is a business. Things like that happen. I'm not mad. I'm not upset. This is what they're trying to do. But like I said, I still think we could be something."

Francis would not comment about going to the Magic, but Fried said Francis was not happy about playing for the Magic in an obvious rebuilding situation.

"Steve's preference is to not go to Orlando," Fried said. "Steve's tasted the playoffs. (The Rockets) got a series under their belts. He was looking forward to going further with the same Rockets team but with another year of experience together. This is certainly not his preference. He loves Houston.

"Steve loved the fans and his teammates. He's very friendly with Cuttino, but also pretty friendly with Yao. Many of us thought the beginnings of something there big with a great center and great point guard."

McGrady, a two-time All-NBA first-team selection, led the NBA in scoring the past two seasons, averaging 28 points per game last season.

Francis has averaged 19.3 points, 6.4 assists and 6.1 rebounds in his five seasons with the Rockets. He averaged 19.2 points, 8.4 rebounds and 7.6 assists in the Rockets' first-round playoff loss to the Rockets.

Only Francis, Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson and Grant Hill have averaged 15 points, five assists and five rebounds in each of their first five seasons.

Francis was acquired in a three-team, 11 player trade, then the largest in NBA history, in which the Rockets brought in Orlando to make the cap numbers work much as a third team might be needed now.

Francis said he would is better prepared to handle trade talk than he was several years ago. But when asked if Francis could return to Houston if the trade falls apart, Fried said that Francis would certainly be scarred.

"He's such a young man of conviction I'm sure it would have some effect on him," Fried said. "He also understands the NBA is a business. On balance, he would be able to be a professional and play for the team. We would be kidding ourselves to think it would not have some effect."

 

I heard that the trade has a snag because Houston wants Reese Gains and thats why it hasnt been made official yet... Gains is in the Expansion Draft and if he isnt picked then Houston will recieve

Tracy Mcgrady=25
Reese Gains=23
Juwan Howard =31

Orlando recieves
Steve Francis=27
Cat Mobley=28
Kelvin Cato=30

We get younger with Gains and T-Mac, and I would think Houston would look to trade Howard for some Kind of pick in the draft to get a backup Center or Point Gaurd.

Reese Gains/Derek Fisher
Tracy Mcgrady/Jim Jackson/?
Jim Jackson/Boki/T-mac
Mo Taylor/J-Howard/Spoon
Yao Ming/?

Thats a pretty good team man. I can't believe we are gonna get a 3 for 3 player trade for T-Mac

Oh Steve Francis will not be a Magic: Steve will be dealt to the Bulls for Tyson Chandler/Kirk Hinrich/Jerome Williams

 

someone posted in one of threads, don't remember which that ESPN is just assuming they aren't protected because the list isn't supposed to be made public. I think thats the case, so i wouldn't worry. As long as the Bobcats leave Juwon Howard alone this is a done deal.

 

Now just WHO do you suppose will be doing that for the Rockets if this trade goes through? Why your old friend the Masta of Disasta, Carroll Dawson! Doesn't that just fill you with confidence?

 

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

Howard is garbage and so is Gooden. But if this deal is done then I'll miss you Steve.

 

where does this Bulls info come from??? link???

 

Check this out:

Bob Slovak with Channel 13 just reported that the deal is this:

Steve Francis
Kelvin Cato
Cuttino Mobley

for

Tracy McGrady
Tyronne Lue
Juwan Howard
Andrew Declerq

 

According to RealGM.com, this trade works under the cap:

http://www2.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=1674439