Actually I remember most Rockets players always said that Wafer's energy was a real motivation and boost to the team.. I can't see how that kills the chemistry if he motivated the team with his on court play.
No one is shifting the argument, just pointing out your ridiculous inconsistencies. You're such a ridiculous hypocrite it's not even funny anymore. Stop protecting your boy and accept reality. If McGrady is a chemistry destroyer in your book, then so is Von.
His teammates dont say he's a cancer, they actually say the opposite...who to believe, hmmmm... Problem is you're evaluating tracy as if he was some regular player starting the season, but he's not. He's coming off a serious surgery, from along rehab, and a long time away from basketball. You're logic of "he's got to earn his PT" is flawed in this situation. You twist an ankle and come back in a week or two, then yes, earn your time back. You pull something and come back in a week, then yes, you better be playing well unless you want to get benched...however, if you're coming off a serious injury, away for so long, you earn the chance to be giving that PT by taking on the long rehab. It's ridiculous to expect him to earn his very first PT by playing well. Of course you're going to say, "i just want effort". Well guess what, effort isn't purely physicaly, it's also mental. I can want and be willing to give 100%, but my body may not be responding 100% and someone like you who's sitting in their living room just watching the physical aspect of it will claim i gave no effort. So now you're gonna say, well if he's not 100% then he needs to sit until he is, but that's the point..you dont get to 100% coming back from a serious injury by sitting. You're basically learning to walk again, to run and jump. Yes he learned the basics of all that already, but the body moves in hundreds of ways and it has to experience all of them again to get back. He's not going to experience them all in practice. It's like giving your kid a recumbent bike to prepare him to ride his own bike without training wheels, but every time he tries to ride his bike he falls of and you send him back to the recumbent bike and tell him he's staying there until he can ride his own bike without a problem. It's not the same feeling, he needs to get on that bike and experience some bumps and bruises, even with prior practice on the recumbent. You can argue tmac is a vet and should already know how to play, how to jump, etc...but once again, it's different from just taking a break during the summer or sitting out a week or two for a minor injury. In those cases the muscle memory is still there, you just have to retrieve it. In tmac's case he has to create muscle movements all over again just to have something to store in memory and that's going to be a long process.. I asked you in the other thread if you've ever suffered a serious injury like this, which i think you said you did, but did you deal with having to come back to play basketball competitively while still dealing with the rehab process? And no, tmac's rehab is technically still not over. You don't know what it's like unless you've experienced it.
Here, this is what happens. Journalists are unfortunately biased, no matter how hard they try. Fran and Jonathan would both conflict in their articles back in the day about the same quotes because one journalist would give it a negative spin while the other one would give it a positive spin. The guy who wrote the article seems to have twisted every quote as much as possible and wrote negativity around it as well. That way, it seems he said something really horrible but when you watch the video and article of non-biased journalists it comes across a completely different way.
Uh, Cat is a journalist, I think he knows what happens...lol..... Cat, Good post.....but you can't say anything remotely negative about The Mac, his PR people and kids that are enamored with sportscenter highlight dunks will come in and call you a hater. They will defend him until the grave. Too bad, they are backing the wrong horse. DD
i think the poster was just trying to apply to wafer the same logic DD was applying to tmac's situation. Neither of them are bad guys or bad teammates, both have been praised by their teammates as being good for the team. However, is pointing out every single little thing that tmac does that could harm the chemistry and using it as an excuse to get rid of him. if you do it for tmac, you can and should do it for Von as well. Sure he played hard, but playing hard doesnt magically create and keep team chemistry. Chemistry includes many different variables. If von is constantly complaining about PT, to the point where he's going to engage in a shouting match with a coach during a game, then even if his heart is in the right place he's still causing a problem and therefore hurting the chemistry. We live in a sports world that can forgive a dog murderer and a player who assaulted a fan, but God forbid we give a second chance to a guy who hogged the ball or didn't always play consistent D...
hopefully this leads to more cameos in trade rumors amongst various newspapers and basketball publications and ultimately a trade...
By the DD, i'm backing you up 100% on this thread. I will NEVER forgive Tmac for ruining the potential trade opportunities for VC when he "coincidentally" announced his plan for surgery when the trade was pretty much a done deal.
How many flipping chances does he get? A 2nd? LOL at some point you have to stop enabling them. Tmac has had multiple chances, he has blown them all.... Let some other team get sucked in by his talent and lack of mental toughness. DD
This argument does not have much merit despite being bought up a lot. If the nets wanted him to actually play then when he took that physical he would have failed. If they just wanted the expiring contract then they could have waived the physical.
Then Cat knows what I'm saying is true. No journalist will straight up fabricate quotes, but there is lots of wiggle room for angling articles and stories the way you want them to be perceived. And yes, while not a journalist one of my college majors was in mass communications so I'm not totally devoid of journalistic knowledge.
if Wafer failed his physical because of prohibited/performance-enhancing substances, should he be given yet another chance?
Those are not all the quotes. The Rockets routinely sent out quotes releases for each player after the game. They hand pick 2-4 of the more relevant questions and type up the responses. In sum, they represent about 5% of what the player said, in most interviews (especially with a guy like Tracy who you know will be asked a lot). I cover a lot of Rockets games, and if you notice, most of the quotes I use you will not find in the rockets.com recap.
If you have proof of that, bring it up.....if not.....what ifs are a waste of time. How is that relevent in a thread about Tmac and Cameo roles? DD
I completely agree, that happens a lot, and I do think the intent of the quotes was twisted badly here. All I'm addressing are the folks who think that because it wasn't in the FSN video or the NBA.com quotes release that it wasn't said, because both of those provide about 5%, in most cases, of what was actually said. He's not fabricating the quotes. Now, is he spinning it? Yup, big time, and that happens a lot. You're exactly right.
How many chances did vick and ron get? It's not like they were perfect citizens until they "blew up"....sometimes it takes a drastic event to finally get to some people, this is tmac's, what's the harm in just waiting this out, and once he's had enough time back and should be ready, and isn't, then blast him? I like how you continue to avoid the questions you can't answer, especially the one about you ever coming back from an injury..
Actually you know what? I think he would have passed the physical because he wasn't really injured. Sure, his knee was hurting from the microscopic surgery last year, but he wasn't injuried, and i'll stand by that. He had what? Multiple doctors tell him he didn't need microfracture surgery until someone finally recommended it. So yes, I think Tmac "faked" his injury. Flame me if you want.
