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[McGrady] Team & Agent Agree To Work On Trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tomato, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. matac3

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    Didnt a report came out last year that Yao wanted Tmac out of houston and Yao came out publicly saying it wasnt true and that he liked Tmac
     
  2. rockets > *

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    If I were to venture a guess on whether or not Yao likes or wants to keep Tmac I'd say he is as tired of Tmac as the organization and coach is. Tmac has been with us since 2004, plenty of time for Yao to see the laziness and selfishness that Tmac is.

    Never really heard anything about Yao and Tmac being good buddies either...SF3 yes, but never Tmac..
     
  3. Naija Texan

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    Adelman's style usually has him play only 7-8 players all season. He has expanded it this season because, while a defensive weapon, Hayes isn't perfect for staying out in the game, especially when you scoring. Add into the fact is Scola, Landry and Hayes can easily get into foul trouble with certain refs out there, so Andersen gets some minutes.

    The problem with finding minutes for McGrady, is that you cut minutes for other players and from what I have seen of the McGrady in his limited minutes, his defense is weak. To me, that is probably the biggest issue with finding McGrady minutes.

    Despite all the love fans have for the team offense or young guys like Brooks and Landry, this team is where it is at primarily because of defense. Even rookies like Budinger and Taylor have shown capable defense working with the rest of the team, with McGrady we had a ten point lead on the Nuggets when Tracy came in for Battier, by the time he came out we were down and Carmelo was on a role. Putting him in when it is obvious watching him, he isn't quite back to 100% offensively or even on par with one of your rookies defensively, is not going to help you win games. If we were in the Eastern Conference, we could get away with such, but this is the Western Conference. We are only 2-3 games from being a lottery right now and if we are going to survive to the post season, having a defensive liability like McGrady doing what amounts to rehab in games is not going to help our chances.

    Nor does it give the team enough time to gel together, last year around this time the problem was a constantly rotating lineup, Rafer, Battier, McGrady and Artest were all injured or coming off injuries and our team suffered for it. This time, Adelman has learned from last year and won't just change the lineup to make one guy, superstar or not, happy.

    It is a difficult situation and really, no one is clearly right or wrong but from what I have seen the Rockets are doing the right thing. It is just a shame that McGrady couldn't take a page from Deke and not worry about appearing so much until the team called on them, which they obviously would have done toward the end of the season and when he was closer to his previous level.
     
  4. Rockets Jones

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    Just read that Kirileinko was spotted with his agent at the Toyota Center. Can any1 confirm this ?? Please tell me this is not true. If #1 p***y of the NBA, that cost us the 2008 playoffs, and #1 flopping b**** comes to the Rockets I officially stop rooting for them. Then it's over and done !!! :mad:
     
  5. rockets > *

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    link?
     
  6. matac3

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    Its funny cause if you go to Youtube and pull the video of the trade that landed Tmac in houston, its the same situation. The attitude, the call outs, everything.
     
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    I have been refraining from posting in all these Tmac threads, but it is just time now.

    I know how many of you hate Tmac and want him gone because of all the bad choices he made, but two wrongs don't make a right!

    The rockets organization are embarassing themselves with how they have handled this situation. They are acting like spoiled children with a vindatta. It is clear that they have LIED from the very beginning about their intentions for Tmac. What is worse, they were not good lies because they did not lead to a trade before the lies were exposed. Whatever the Rockets reasons for what they wanted to do with Tmac, they should have handled it in a way that they were able to trade him without all this drama.

    Anyone saying this is all on Tmac has blinders on. Sure he f...ed up a lot, but the Rockets have been doing the same thing this whole year with how they are handling it. This might turn out to be Morey's toughest trade now, if he is even able to make a trade at this point since his hand is shown to the whole league now.

    If the Rockets can't trade Tmac and hold him out until February and then buy him out, which is a real possibility, that will be a terrible conclusion to this asset that was ours, strictly from a business perspective. From a players perspective, if I was free agent, I wouldn't want to come here. If I was a player, I would want to come here because of how the team plays, but from the business side of it, I now would be very relunctant to deal with the Rockets because of how many players from Hakeen, to Barkley, to Wafer, to Artest and now Tmac, have been handled...with many in between.

    RA may be known as a players coach, but I think he is ruining Morey's chances of really gettting another superstar now. I still love the Rockets more than I care about Tmac, but I will be watching very closely to see how this plays out and what we get for this $23 million dollar expiring asset.

    And oh my, if Tmac does go to another team and return to elite level, that will speak VOLUMES about RA's ego.
     
  8. ElPigto

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    Meh.

    I would still root for the Rockets. I wouldn't like Kirilenko but I stay loyal to the Rockets.

    Rocket fan for life.
     
  9. RocketGirl6

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    Don't know if this is the right thread, but if we find a team to trade McGrady to, can we also include future draft picks so we don't lose anyone that is a key roation player?
     
  10. wekko368

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    The Rockets were classy, professional, and handled a McGrady as best they could. Its understandable that they were intentionally vague with their plans because A) its unwise to give your opponents insight into your strategies and B) anything told to McGrady would most likely find its way to the media.

    Secondly, the Rockets are the employer and McGrady the employee. Last year, McGrady ruined any good will he might have had with the franchise. It's obvious that McGrady wanted more playing time, but what benefits could the Rockets reap from playing him? Absolutely nothing.

    McGrady's value lies entirely in his contract. The only effects of playing McGrady would be detrimental ones (interfering with chemistry and the development of younger players). Nevertheless, the Rockets still ultimately played him at their own expense.

    Instead of acting like a drama queen, McGrady should recognize the many chances he's been given, keep his mouth shut, and be grateful.
     
  11. jopatmc

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    If the Rockets do not trade McGrady, they will not buy him out before March 1. They are not going to let him to go a playoff contender and push them down. They know he is likely headed right to Phoenix or possibly San Antonio to give them hell. Won't happen. The onus is on McGrady's camp to make sure a deal goes down. And the whole thing about the Rockets being open to him coming back has to do with bringing him back after a trade and a buyout. I would be willing to bet they are willing to bring McGrady back at the minimum after a trade and buyout and they may take a trade based on McGrady's agreement to re-sign here, just to keep him away from our playoff opponents. Read between the lines here. We are not going to help a playoff contender and let them steal our cheese by letting McGrady drift onto their roster, unless we get a substantial talent upgrade that makes it worth the risk.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    No way they buy him out, they have his S&T rights......just keep him.....and see if they can get any value in the offseason.

    DD
     
  13. Seth

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    It depends, right now, only 20% of his salary is being paid by the rox. So if TMac offers a 4 million buyout i would take it.
    Otherwise, there is no need to pay a buyout for TMac when the Insurance is taking care of 80% of his salary.
     
  14. Stevierebel

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    What was Yao suppose to say? "Yeah, I don't like him? I want him gone"

    Yao isn't a fan... Neither is at least one other key player on the team. They are tired of the whole ordeal known as Tracy. In and out of the lineup, dogging games last year, just wore on the whole team.
     
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    They are not letting him walk to another western conference playoff contender just for lux tax relief..........period.
     
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    "McGrady on leave" is about to be on sports center
     
  17. Sooner423

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    I think my head would explode if that happened. Although, if they threw in Brewer or the Knicks pick, I think I might be able to eventually come to terms with it. AK only has one more year on that deal. We know Daryl likes Brewer, it came out that he would have been the pick if they hadn't traded for Battier.
     
  18. Stevierebel

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    where did you read that?
     
  19. xiki

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    Thank you for finally seeing it the correct way, my way.
     
  20. Sooner423

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    Come on man, you have to be ****ing with us, right? Where'd you read it?

    Hmmm, gulp...

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykv5f7r
     

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