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McGrady Expects Return to Elite Status

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. faraza84

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    looking forward to his elite status and so are the rockets in hopes of getting more season ticket holders :cool:
     
  2. TECH

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    Does anybody not fault the rockets' management/doctors/trainers that insisted McGrady's knee was ok and that he simply needed to play through the pain? He did so, gave it a shot, made it worse and it ended up needing microfracture surgery. Maybe McGrady really trusted his advisors for a time, but in his mind he couldn't believe his knee was right. How's he supposed to juggle his advisors, his own feelings, and the media correctly in this instance? Yeah, it was troubling with him going in and out of the lineup, but I don't believe he was being an intentional let-down.

    I'll hope for the best, but if it doesn't work out, I won't blame him.
     
  3. fmp087

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    IIRC, I don't think mcgradys knee ever NEEDED microfracture surgery, it was just an option. I think he had to get 2nd and 3rd options when a doctor finally conceded to mcgradys wishes of wanting the microfracture surgery done.
    Just saying.
     
  4. bbjai

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    there was certainly something wrong with his knee though?
    Look at that dunk, who on earth would be sane enough to put themselves through that embarassment??
     
  5. Jeff Who

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    People don't make that type of surgeries when they don't need them, it is too serious. You can say whatever you want about McGrady but I am sure he is not an idiot.

    The microfracture was even an option after 06-07 but they decided to treat it without any surgeries. Than when his knee got worse they had to make something, back in 08 summer. He probably didn't want to undergo microfracture because of Ron's arrival.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Hopefully T-Mac joined Continental's OnePass program, a few more first class round trippers to Vegas/Chicago and he will surely be over 100,000 for the year and regain Elite status.
     
  7. jamesjones1979

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    My first reply,good luck T-MAC.
     
  8. TMac4Life#1

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    36 and counting Hmmm pretty interested. As many T-Mac haters im surprised its only 36 pages. Funny thing is the Steve Nash thread generated about 47 pages or more.

    McGrady considering if he comes back on time is going to make a lot of his teammates better than what they are. Think about it. He made Chuck Hayes ( kind of ) Imagine the things he can do with Joey Dorsey. McGrady will be back. I believe. I have faith. He will be back and be on the All NBA Second Team
     
  9. W22_STREAK

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    nba 2nd team? boy I'd love to believe you on that but it aint gonna happen...

    that would mean he's top 10 all nba. pretty unlikely for someone whos not going to play more than half of the games and us not going to make the playoffs.

    but we can witness his awesome passing and he'll make the whole team better.

    the big question is do we trade him at the trade deadline for borderline-stars like kevin martin or let his massive contract come off the books?
     
  10. TMac4Life#1

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    Why would they want to trade him??? I mean why should they. What do we have to lose? Yao is out and with the way this team is shaped up we have no chance at competing for the chip. Might as well keep him for the remainder of the season and use his expiring contract for ourselves.

    The only way I would say trade McGrady is for a deal that you can't say no to. All these trade him for Kevin Martin and all types of other deals would just be horrible. A realistic but great deal but other than that I say you might as well keep him.
     
  11. Trini Rocket

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    I don't see how having TMac past the trade deadline is committing to him. Usually having a star walk is a bad thing because you can't get value for his contract in the offseason through free agency. But next year is different with the much heralded 2010 free agency.

    Ask yourself this, why were all those teams calling DM asking about TMac? It's because an expiring contract next off season is a huge asset and even more so because of the size of TMac's contract. To me, if he is here past the deadline it doesn't automatically mean we're committing to him. It could mean that we're keeping our major asset in hopes that we could nab one of the many star free agents of next year's offseason.
     
  12. Yaozza

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    Sounds like a great plan.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    But that is not how it works, once his contract is expired you can only trade him in a Sign and Trade scenario...

    If we trade him before the deadline the other team gets the benefit of the expiring deal.

    Once the season ends, our leverage is much much less....because now you go from his contract having value, to just him as a player....and in that regards you need a team that wants him as a player going forward, and you eliminate those that may want the cap relief.

    DD
     
  14. xiki

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    It is still an asset. But, of course, so was Ron - Ron's expiring. Of course that became a de facto SnT.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    It is not an asset under your control anymore.

    DD
     
  16. Trini Rocket

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    You still have the money from the expiring which is what all the teams that are calling DM want. As I said usually you won't let someone walk away without the team getting anything but next year is different. It just seems that having 20+ million to sign a free agent in this particular free agent class is much better than trying to trade him before the deadline.

    We can match anybody's offer to their own free agents. Usually the team that has the free agent would have the bird rights and would be at an advantage because they wouldn't be restricted by the cap. But with so much money coming off the books for the Rockets if they keep TMac then I don't think money will be an issue for any free agent signing here. It would just be the team situation and the possibility to succeed.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Trini,

    This is not true either, there is a soft cap, and then there is some room before you get to the Lux tax area, so while Tmac's contract comes off the books the team would still be close to the cap and only able to sign someone that takes them to the cap, and I think that is less than $10 million......

    But one of the resident capologists could tell you better.

    DD
     
  18. tmacwillbeback

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    i am suprised this is not longer than 36 pages with all the t mac bashers
     
  19. jackie_moon23

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    I'm very much looking forward to his return, not because I love McGrady or anything, but a good return for him is good for the organization on several levels. It increases ticket sales, he's entertaining to watch, but most of all, he represents the potential to be a coveted asset at trade deadline if he comes back strong. If we can't get anything for him, then at least he can hopefully propel the team to the postseason, where anything can happen.
     
  20. sammy

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    I really wish that they would release some sort of updated timetable on his return. The suspense is killing me !
     

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