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McGrady Expects Return to Elite Status

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. leebigez

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    I agree, but i read it anyway. I mean someone started a thread about famous quotes and within minutes it was filled with tracy stuff. Like i said, you would think he was the devil in the flesh.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Fair enough Leeb, I will talk Rocks with anyone, I think everyone is here because they are a Rocket's fan.

    I don't like going back and forth, I think it hurts the GARM, but I also don't like character assasination for the sake of a personal grudge.

    I will happily stand down.

    DD
     
  3. logicx

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    I wish I could say it was because Tracy is young and dumb, and usually that means big mouth...but he's not young anymore, he needs to grow up...mentally. Maybe he makes too much money to grow up...maybe he's already too much of a prima donna to go back, I hope not. We'll see next season when he comes in and plays, whether or not it'll work out. Something tells me it will, and he'll do what he has to, even if it's just for himself.
     
  4. logicx

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    He is the devil.

    :mad: <---- Tracy McGrady

    Yeah, I try to read it but I have ADD and it's difficult! It's amusing, either way, I wish I could see it real time though (the arguing), via video or something.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Thats cool DD and the cabbage said what he had to say, its done. Back to the topic, i posted last year that mcgrady felt brooks was a great fit with him. It kinda gives aaron the chance to play sg as opposed to pg. Rafer is a true pg, but playing with mcgrady kinda highlighted alstons weakness which was shooting. I keep my updates with the person i really know in the camp and i'm not sure at what level he will return, but the rox have shown they can win alot of games with mcgrady. What does that equate too? Not sure since yao and deke are gone, but at least now we will have 3 people who will run the lanes in brooks,ariza and scola in the starting lineup. On another note, does anyone else wonder why brent barry is still on the squad?
     
  6. logicx

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    I wonder...but uh, all I can come up with is he wants to retire in Houston? They're waiting to trade him to a team to make the trade work? Locker room support? Veteran wisdom?

    I think if McGrady comes back healthy, it will work. I don't see any reason why things can't. If McGrady's healthy and able to run and move and he's elite or even close to it, I think we'll be fine. McGrady may not be the most efficient scorer/shooter but he's a playmaker, in my opinion, and if he's shooting and moving like he used to, he will at the very least draw attention away from other players on the court and will get some guys some open looks. I look forward to that.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    My sincere apologies.

    DD
     
  8. leebigez

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    See thats what make him special in a sense and people don't understand, but for him to be his best at playmaking, he has to be a triple threat again. The triple threat of pass,shoot, or drive is what seperates the good from the really good. Thats why when people brought up redd and guys like that, they cant hold a candle to tracy in that regards. Redd can shoot, but he's not going to drive or pass. Now i do believe brooks is the closest thing we have right now because he can shoot, he is a developing passer, and he can get to the paint anytime. No one ever said the playmaker had to be a big guy or wing, it just needs to be a guy capapble.
     
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    :eek: When will people stop the cursing?!!?!

    Posing a hypothetical for a minute --

    I think most people would agree that this current team (no Yao, no Artest, minimal expectations for TMac) is not playoff caliber.

    What if TMac does come back with flashes of his old self, and leads us to a 47-52 win type season, into the playoffs, a 5-7 type seed, but another 6-7 game first round loss.

    Is he still a "loser", or do you credit him for helping the team overachieve?
     
  10. logicx

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    Thou art forgiven, go and sin no more... :D

    Just kidding. I can't really "cast the first stone"...I've been off topic in threads so many times it's sad...ADD here...ADD...
     
  11. logicx

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    IF I agreed that we are not a playoff contender (which I don't), and Tracy got us to late in the first round, this BBS I think would explode with TMac hatred unlike any other, BUT I'd be appreciative.

    Now that's all on the assumption that I don't think we're a playoff contender, when I really think we are...so I expect more from Tmac. I expect him to up his game, move around more, run the court, get people involved, and be the best T-Mac can be so he and we can get to the second round...oh yes...I said it...the second round!

    It's definitely possible. I'm not crazy. Especially factoring in a mid-season/late-season Yao return. Oh yes.
     
  12. logicx

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    I agree AB may have the pass, shoot, drive thing going on but I don't think he'll command the same respect and attention that Tmac does, I'm not sure why, it's not an intangible but I just can't figure out why other than to say that Tmac is just gifted and he's better than Aaron can be? I don't know.

    You're right though, for Tmac to command attention, he will have to be able to 1) Pass well 2) Drive (which I would love, love, love to see) 3) Shoot, at a decent percentage, I might add, and in Clutch situations. My hope/dream is that he comes back a new man with no shoulder/knee pain and that he looks like a brand new player. I may be dreaming too much, but that's what I'm going for...
     
  13. Yaozza

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    you can learn a thing or two from Cabbage
     
  14. DaDakota

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    This is tough Nike, because with a healthy Tmac this team is not that far from contender status, it is right back where it was last year without him and with Yao.

    A 4 or 5 seed battling for home court advantage.

    I would honestly be shocked If Tmac is here past the deadline, to me he has to be moved to get the most out of his contract for the good of the franchise overall.

    Once his contract is up, we lose a lot of leverage.

    DD
     
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    TMac is always a loser until he won a playoff series. His teammates regardless.

     
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    Good points. This is why for me this trade deadline is more crucial then next year's off season. Getting pieces for Tmac is essential to continue the winning tradition of the team. However, If Tmac is back and is contributing like what we are all expecting then The team should gamble for one more year and try to make a run for the only goal for every team. Winning a title.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    I don't think you can gamble on Yao and TMac, you can gamble on one, but having 2 injury prone star players is treading water....and too risky, IMO.

    DD
     
  18. Rocket86

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    I meant gamble with Tmac. I am assuming Yao is out the whole year. Granting that the team has a chance at a good seed with Tmac playing really well before the trade deadline, They should just make a run for it rather then trading Tmac. A lot of ifs but that would be a scenario that should be taken seriously.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    See to me, if they go past the trade deadline with him on the roster still they are committing to him going forward.

    Because the leverage the team has is in his expiring contract etc....once that is expired, just like Artest, he is free to go and the team get nothing for him.

    DD
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    if Tmac playing is really well before the trade deadline, then we should get very good offers.. so it depends what is offered at the time..
     

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