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McGrady Exam Postponed--Update

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by khimmatramka16, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

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    A fair point, he is just trying to figure out how to work him into a pretty successful flow.

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  2. matac3

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    You cant get on people if they want to see Tmac play. Plus, dont be upset and make claims that people who support Tmac claim they dont care about winning or losing. Some people really want to see Tmac play again for the rockets. I am one of those people, yet i do care about the team and their current success. However, I do enjoy seeing Tmac play and would really be excited to see him play again for the rockets.

    And your claim thats directed to the fan who has season tickets and wont renew them unless Tmac plays...... let him do as he please. If he bought tickets to see Tmac play then its his deal. He's not ignorant for that. Part of the reason the Rockets sign tracy and make him a big deal is because they want him to draw fans and attendence.
     
  3. mgraye2969

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    HAHA I was thinking the same thing...
     
  4. RocketRaccoon

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    Great response Lou. Last year he had us over the fire. But this year, we have him over the fire. And I don't think even the team will let Tracy have is way.

    Having said that, I'm on the side of letting him play back into playing shape with the "team" play aspect the main criteria as to how many minutes he gets. And if he doesn't "get it", February is just around the corner and the team hasn't lost anything since the championship is out of the question anyway. (personally, I'll never give up the goal of a championship...anything is possible :grin: )
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Man. Hard to beleive McGrady is only 30

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  6. Ultimate6thMan

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    I don't think I wasted a post, it is what I agree with as you stated and I expressed that in a forum.

    Not true. I care about wins and losses. I don't want us to tank. I want us to make the playoffs at any seed and try to win a championship this year and every year no matter what the odds.

    If anyone paid to see the "team", and $23,000,000 of it is ready to play but not being played...then that's not what we paid for.

    You mean not real fans buy season tickets? Or real fans don't buy season tickets? I'm confused, would you care to explain?

    The fact that you think wanting McGrady to play equals to giving two ****s about the team success says more about how you feel about McGrady than anything that you want it to say about us.

    And really, what is wrong with you that you are losing your cool over this?

    Again, wanting McGrady to play is not putting him over the team's success. But your opinion clearly indicates that you might be a Tmac hater and are you there for a real fan since he is still on our team at the moment?

    The team is playing great, but we are still only 8 and 6. With Tmac to close a couple of those games, we could easily right now be 10 and 4.

    I like RA as a coach, but he is still open to be disagreed with from time to time just like any player on the team. But I don't hate on RA like you seem to be hating on Tmac who is still a ROCKET right now.

    It is very rude of you to call a season ticket holder ignorant because he requests what he paid for. I doubt the Rockets organization would agree with you about your assessment of who they want buying tickets.

    Are you a season ticket holder btw?

    Tracy McGrady is a Houston Rocket so you should be a fan of his too unless and until he is traded. Like you admitted yourself, you don't even know if he can help our team. MANY of us strongly believe that he can and will when given the opportunity to play and we want to see that asap!

    If you just care about winning, then you should know that we need a closer like McGrady to finish out some of these close games that we have been losing.

    Now, take your meds and relax! :grin:
     
  7. joegoroxy

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    i only want McGrady to play when he is deemed 100% healthy and gets to do a week worth of full practices.

    i am not for us rushing him out there so he can F his S up all over again.

    the team is doing well enough while he was out w/ the injury and recovering, how is a couple of more games going to hurt as he starts to get his timing back?
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think he has that on his mind. Last year was a disaster both for T-mac, and the team, and even RA. No one looked good. No one.

    I think they want to avoid that this year, not just Rick but everyone. He also is going to use his leverage to get Tmac to buy in. He's a smart guy. He's going to let T-mac play - RA isnt insane, but he's going to make sure T-mac plays by his rules (i.e. system).

    And it appears, RA is content to the possibility T-mac will not agree and get traded.

    I am all for T-mac playing and hope he stays a Rocket, but I do think T-mac needs to be humble here and think about appeasing RA. He needs to make things work in Houston because he can't afford to move to a mediocre team at this point of his career
     
  9. Ultimate6thMan

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    I think you made some excellent points in this post!

    I would think that Tmac will be forced to play the new style of this Rockets team because they won't slow it down for him. When the Rockets get stuck in half court, Tmac will get the ball in his hands and probably require double teams and get the shooters some easy shots. But I don't see the team slowing down their running game on breaks just because Tmac is in the game. It would show bad on him if he doesn't try to run with them.
     
  10. Thefabman

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    this is the truth of the matter no matter how many people would dispute, of course balls can bounce either way and it could be said that we could just as well be 6-8 with tmac in the lineup but just taking his closing ability combined with this team and its effort i would even venture to say we could be 11-3 right now
     
  11. wekko368

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    What difference does it make? A better record would only be relevant if you're talking about playoff positioning. To be honest, I don't care if we make the playoffs if we have no chance of winning a title. In that sense, I'd rather be 8-6 instead of 11-3 (due to lottery implications).
     
  12. LongTimeFan

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    Isn't that the point? Why are you saying he's ready to play? Because he said he's ready? Didn't he say he was ready last year too, and what happened? You're making it sound like the Rockets are purposely holding back a healthy player who could help our team, and are chiming in that they need to play him or lose your money. I'm saying, NOBODY knows if McGrady is ready to play, and the remarks from Adelman/Morey are more on the side of NO, he's not ready to play yet. HE HASN'T EVEN GONE THROUGH A FULL PRACTICE. Yet you think they should trot him out there? That's ridiculous. He should play when he's ready to play in an NBA game and help our team - he hasn't shown anything to any of us that he's ready for that. I trust our coach, and I trust our GM - they will make the decision when he's ready to help our team. Why don't you trust them? Why do you feel the need to think McGrady can come in and be a factor for our team right away?

    If you care about the team, you care about their success above any individual player. How is that hard to understand? Let me reiterate: McGrady hasn't gone through a full NBA practice since last year. Yet you and others are saying if the Rockets don't play him ASAP, you will cancel your season tickets? Good riddance.


    This is funny - why am I a "hater"? Because I don't want a player to come back to the team before going through a full practice? Before it's proven that he can help this team? I never once said McGrady was done or would be bad for the team - I said he needs to SHOW the team he can help them in practice before getting on the court. How is that being a hater? Would you play a player coming off microfracture surgery prior to him having gone through a full practice? I surely hope not.

    We've had one of the toughest schedules in the NBA - if you told me we'd be 8-6 after this stretch to begin the year, I'd be pretty damn happy about it. And no, you're just flat out wrong. A McGrady who hasn't gone through any full practices with the team would not magically have won us 2 of those games. You're taking in-shape, elite McGrady and putting him into these game situations - wake up. That McGrady isn't here anymore. We don't know what he can do - hopefully today is the first clue on how much he can help us.

    I think Adelman is a Hall of Fame coach who doesn't get enough credit. I don't think coaches like Adelman should ever be fired. I also don't think RA has an "ego problem" as many pointed out that JVG had one. People constantly say how much he's a players coach and how he'll reward a player for working hard and doing the right things in practice. (Landry, Carl.)

    Request what he paid for? Did he request to watch McGrady? I'm sure most season ticket holders are pretty damn happy about the product they paid for. They knew going into the season Yao wouldn't play and McGrady wasn't even supposed to come back until January or February. Of course the Rockets would disagree with me - they want your money, no matter how dumb you may be. But saying you won't renew your season tickets unless they play a guy who hasn't even had a practice yet IS flat out ignorant - sorry to offend.

    And no, I'm not a season ticket holder - because I'm in grad school in Indiana. I have, however, purchased League Pass the last two years so I could still catch every Rockets game. I can't be at the games, but I've done my best to stay up with the team.

    You're right, I don't know if he can help this team. Neither do you. Nor Adelman. Nor Morey. Nobody does - why? Because he hasn't even practiced yet. Our team is playing well and in the playoffs - there is no rush to get him back in the lineup. The only thing that matters is the playoffs, and if he indeed can come back from surgery, I'd much prefer to ease him back in and get him 100% for said playoffs.

    I agree that we need a closer, the only thing I agree with you with. But who knows if McGrady is still that? All I've said is, I want to see him practice first and how well he fits in with the team. How you take the opposite opinion I'm not sure of. Morey and Adelman are doing the right thing - and I hope Rocket fans and season ticket holders are smart enough to have patience and trust in their decision making.
     
  13. number22

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    ok so practice just started any news? has a timetable been established?lol j/k :cool:
     
  14. waytookrzy079

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    WOW! I really hope for your sake that it was an "autodraft" an there's over 20 teams in your league, cuz otherwise...you just pulled a "NEW YORK KNICKS"
     
  15. Ultimate6thMan

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    So why the rant and insults just because of how someone else determines to spend their hard earned money and my agreeing with them to do as they please?
     
  16. LongTimeFan

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    The answer is in the novel you conveniently left out. :) I hope McGrady can help this team. I think it's dumb to play him before it's shown he's capable of helping the team after major surgery. Those are the cliff notes. If you disagree and think he can help the team right now without practicing, there's no point in debating. You're just wrong. :)
     
  17. trueroxfan

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    calm down
     
  18. waytookrzy079

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    THis is what's happening in RA's mind...

    Right now, we've got a 9-man rotation w/ Lowry, Landry, C-Bud, and Andersen coming off the bench. All 4 are playing well, and i personally don't think RA wants to go to a 10-man rotation. Since all 4 are playing well, whose minutes do you wanna give to MAC?? In order to do that, MAC has to prove himself not only to the coaches, but he has to prove himself to the rest of his team. MAC also needs to prove that he can play in this uptempo game. When has this team ever played with this uptempo type offense? If they throw him out there right away without practices, he's gonna look slower than YAO.

    TMAC will fit right in IF he plays within the motion offense and not be a ball-stopper and make plays down the stretch when he needs to. This offense should suit MAC much better simply because he wont have to set himself up, but rather, move off screens and get open shots which means higher FG%, more PPG, which means a good contract next year from someone other than the Rockets.
     
  19. don grahamleone

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    I don't trust the chronicle any more. Get some honest writers and I'll start reading again. Right now it feels like the chronicle doesn't want to see the Rockets be successful. That sucks when your own paper doesn't get behind the team, but the national media does.
     
  20. QdoubleA

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    I have Wilson Chandler and Al Harrington....but I started off with Larry hughes too, sad times.
     

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