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McGrady dressed but not ready

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dingaaa, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. jVgOwnsYou

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    Especially a scorer and a talented passer. McGrady can play in any system. People are talking about how we move the ball better etc. Were still shooting a ton of threes and we turn the ball over alot. There are things I see, especially in the half court, that are concerning. I think Mcgrady could help in some of those areas.
     
  2. CheezeyBoy22

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    I understand where you're coming from but Mac isn't like your normal basketball player. He's been trouble since he was in Orlando. There's a reason why they traded him. I personally liked him until last year. He threw his team under the bus and now he's going to pay for it.

    This team is very different than two years ago. If you add the 04-05 Yao and T-Mac to this team... You have a contender. We aren't going to see that again and the Rockets know that. There's a reason why they're doing the things they're doing now. They are trying to build a winning team. It's not going to work with T-Mac being Me-Mac.
     
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    I agree T-Mac would help in the half court setting. There's no question about it. But as D.Morey has stated, that's not what they are looking for. They're looking for ball movement and that's what T-Mac lacks. He holds the ball.
     
  4. jVgOwnsYou

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    We're not going to seriously contend unless we can find a more efficient half court option. Now look, Mcgrady may not be that guy. Personally I think thats a question waiting to be answered, but I think he has what it takes to bring this team to a higher level of play. If we are looking to deal him im fine with it so long as we acquire the right pieces, but honestly, id rather mcgradys contract just expire so that we can sign whoever we want. I think it will give us more options than whats out there on the trade market.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    You do understand that if the team lets his contract expire they only get back 1/3rd of the value available to sign a player...something like $7 million or so.

    Whereas if they trade him they can get $23 million in players.....

    They may indeed let him expire, but it seems they would get more if he is traded.

    DD
     
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    so does every good scorer. When we look to scola in the post hes not exactly looking to pass it either. Sometimes during the course of a game you just have to exploit mismatches in the half court and right now brooks is the only guy i feel that consistantly poses a threat in that regard, and Tmac is a better passer and better at getting to the line.
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    well you see that all depends on what the other team is willing to give up. If we can find the right deal, do it, but teams are going to be looking to salary dump, and IMO were not in the position to play to win it all. We're still building towards the future and the last thing we need is to acquire bad contracts.
     
  8. CheezeyBoy22

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    But that's the whole point though... They're not trying to contend this year. Morey has made that very clear. They want this team to compete and play hard. The expectations are set very low for this Rockets' team.

    They must trade him if they plan on being players this off season/next season. They don't have that much money if they let him expire. I know it's hard for us as fans to realize they could possible have a losing record but this team has shown us a reason to follow them. They hustle, they fight, and they don't stop.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Yeah, I agree, but if you get something like a good $10 million dollar player, one poison pill contract at $6 million and a $7 million expiring you are better off over all.

    DD
     
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    Last time I remember Tmac was a jump shooter and wasn't trying to create contact...
     
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    There's no promise that you'll have to take a bad contract. If they trade Tmac... believe you me... someone else is going with him. You can take a bad contract and a player that will make an impact and an expiring contract and still come out ahead. (I know that was a run-on)
     
  12. jVgOwnsYou

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    Well his size gives him an advantage over opponents when he gets in the paint, and he gets to the line a good bit more than brooks. That was my point.
     
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    Agreed but Brooks is a third year player and he's smaller than Tmac. Brooks doesn't get the benefit of the doubt like other players do. A lot of bigger guards have been fouling him but the Refs are not calling the calls. National media even mention this when Fisher was doing that against him on the Lakers' loss.
     
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    His trade value just collapsed further.

    Looks like the Rockets are going to make T-mac is going to sit on the bench all year. That's not going to work for the Rockets because T-mac clearly isn't going to allow that. If I were him, I wouldn't either.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    No it did not.

    His trade value has always been his $23 million dollar expiring contract, and whether he plays well or not, it will remain that way.

    Nothing changes by him playing...his contract is too big to be anything other than an expiring.

    DD
     

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