First of all Tracy and Houston being quiet is the RIGHT way to handle this if there is a deal. Now once again this is the sort of thing that has made this place EXTRA special for over a decade.So quit poo pooing Almu. As far as the deal goes.....Marbury wouldn't be coming here by himself. Very high draft picks and perhaps Lee are tradeable commodities NOW.Personally I would keep Lee but if the offer was the right one he's going bye bye.We have depth and chemistry.Without Tracy we would need more athleticism but again the Rockets could get another piece now and become a dynasty if they play their cards right. 21 million to go with what we already have and all kinds of flexibility for the Wizard to work with. For the record,I trust management now more than I ever have in the Rockets existence. So chill out....It's going to be a bumpy ride to multiple titles.
If they are going to trade Tracy, I'd like them to see if we can get that crazy mofo from Sacramento. Ron Artest will add to the Rockets growing collection of RAs very nicely. The Kings have enough salary stuffers to make the deal work.
Good points all around. Funny thing is, as quiet as the Rockets and TMac are considering all the rumors makes me speculate more. Though, I highly doubt anything goes down with him being traded. As for the rumored trade, you're right, there would have to be A LOT more to it. I know TMac's trade value is at an all-time low right now, but "Starbury" is just crap right now and getting paid as an elite player. The Oregonian reported today that Zach Randolph is probably going to be traded to the Bucks. I find that interesting considering the TMac to the Bucks rumor a week or so ago. Maybe a 3-team deal in the works? Who knows. http://blog.oregonlive.com/johncanzano/2008/01/nellie_to_the_rose_city_we_did.html I'm certainly not advocating trading Tracy but damn all these rumors are getting juicy. I think the Rockets are a damn good team if he stays healthy and plays through RA's system but it's hard to imagine them knocking out the top-tier teams in the West to get to the Finals. I think, if they play their cards right (if they trade TMac), the can semi-rebuild around Yao for a couple of years. More than likely by then, the elite teams (Suns, Spurs, Mavs) will have come way back to the pack and the Rockets can be one of the few serious contenders with only teams like the Blazers and Hornets.
Talk about wanting to get sticked in the butt. I commented on ESPN last night saying nobody is stupid enough to trade for Marbury and that you couldnt get an eggplant for him. So this would mean McGrady is worse than an eggplant?
Probably posted in here already but I don't wanna go thru all 12 pages while I'm trying to download p*rn and Naruto http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nb...end-so-they-ll-obviously-trade-?urn=nba,61012
If I was Morey, this is a trade I might consider during the course of next season if the team appeared to be going nowhere once again with Yao and T-Mac together because I would be getting an expensive contract in return that would be expiring at the end of the season, and would probably just let Marbury go and pursue other free agents that would improve the team, which would be, in effect, taking the team into a new direction.
I have that WTF reaction when I read the OP but also very amazed that this thread could go 12 pages and keep going. I cannot read through all the posts here so can somebody tell me where's the gem hiding? Many thanks in advance.
I like GOOD rumour info. He went from "excellent info" and "this guy has not been wrong in the past" to totally downplaying the rumours and saying it's just smoke. Which is it?
Yeah, when I read the initial post, I thought it was supposed to read Tmac for "McLovin". Now I would endorse this trade. I know what y'all are thinkin'. Not another dorky white guy at the point. (Maloney), but he brings the one asset that the rockets could use - he has a good relationship with the police, so no more off court problems for Rafer.
At what point did Almu say it was a "stone cold lock"? "Excellent info", and "this guy has not been wrong in the past" all back up his comment that there is some "smoke" as in smoke before the fire and that there have been discussions. For most of the posts on this thread: (not directed at Mr. Clutch) Of course TMac for Marbury straight up is idiotic, I'm just suprised that there were so many posters here that actually realize it. I tell you what, if you have been around here a while (longer than 3 or 4 years), there has been a huge decline in content in the posts. Don't get me wrong, there have been some valuable contributors that have come to this site since then, but my BS filter is just about full. That being said, Almu's initial post was vague, and the bugs went right to the zapper. Honestly, do you really think that the FO would pull a one for one like this? He said he would add more intel as he got it, but that was the piece of meat thrown in the cage and yall tore it in every direction possible. All he is saying is that his "source" hasn't thrown him under the bus before and he has no reason for him to do so now. Considering the quality of posts over the past few years, reading anything that has a resemblence of having teeth to it is actually refreshing. Do I believe it has been discussed, hell anything can be discussed, just like anyone can sue anyone, doesn't mean it will come to fruition. Just add it to the list of possible scenerios, mull on it, build on it, throw it against your wall and see how long it sticks, and/or leave it alone. Almu: This one might have some teeth to it, but show us a Miss America smile and Leon Spinks. I vomit of the idea that we might be retooling, but also come to the realization along the lines of Dr. Strangelove that it sucks upfront, but if we can get Lee (trade or keep him) a #1, and Marbury's 21M, that's a heck of a head start. Just my $.02.
This story has to be completely FALSE. Why is this story false? Tmac's contract is not an expiring one. After this season, he still has 2 more seasons left on his contract, which he is due to make $21 million and $23 million. Stephon Marbury's contract is done after this season. From what everybody has heard, the Knicks are trying to clear up some cap room, therefore this deal would make no sense to the Knicks, and the Rockets would NEVER trade Tmac for an overrated, unmotivated, self-proclaimed "best point guard in the NBA", streetballer like Stephon Marbury. The deal would clear up cap room, but Marbury would just bring negativity to this team for the rest of this year. Plus, if you are gonna trade Tmac, we better get some value back. Marbury hasn't had value since he left Minnasota. I don't know where you heard this from, but Daryl Morey is a much better GM than to EVER make this trade.
Exactly. Funny that this thread even went to 12 pages. Almu is a sensationalist, attention-whoring poster who has very little credibility. Even the title of the thread is misleading - it says "McGrady being shopped", but everything that is posted just states that NY would "love to have McGrady" and that they would give up Marbury, but "that they would want a little more" (WTF?). So even IF Almu heard "something" (which might well be true), his sensationalist, attention-whoring ways made him distort the info he got to this BBS, by titling the thread "McGrady being shopped" when even the info he is relaying does NOT say that - it says that New York would like to have him - that does not mean that we are shopping him. And the purported "offer" is beyond ridiculous. Also, Almu said "he would be traveling", yet keeps posting and oh wonder, he is backtracking already. And New York would want "a little more"? Yeah, and we would like to have Kobe, would be willing to give up Mike James and some other bad contracts to get him, but we "would want a little more". Kelly Dwyer summarized it best: Houston doesn't want New York's crap. Houston doesn't want New York's crap. Houston doesn't want New York's crap.
Really! Let New York stew in their mess of an incredibly expensive, bad team. We have a pretty good team that may end up being a great team by season's end. (I still think we'll make at least one more deal... but not this one, thank god)
Marbury has two more seasons including this one. T-Mac has three more seasons including this one. Knicks expiring contracts: Fred Jones (c. $3M) Randolph Morris (c. $800k) Rockets expiring contracts/team options: Bonzi (c. under $2.5M) Snyder (c. under $2.5M) Novak Landry Francis has a player option for next season. In other trade rumors involving th Knicks: http://blog.oregonlive.com/johncanzano/2008/01/nellie_to_the_rose_city_we_did.html
"Solution looking for a problem" summarizes these trade scenarios and generall mentality of these posters.
I don’t see this trade happening,….however some of us are delusional, why is Chicago going to trade Deng for McGeedy when they didn’t do it for arguably the best player in the NBA, Kobe Bryant? McGreedy in my opinion is going to be very difficult to move, who’s going to want to give up value for him? He’s got some major back issues…… he’s talked about retirement after his contract…….he’s declining in productivity and athleticism…..plus most importantly he’s known to sulk and SUCK in the playoffs.
