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McCain's experience

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by B-Bob, Aug 12, 2008.

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  1. rhadamanthus

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    No issues with the above analysis. The key is in the "could be". I have not seen any data to show me why it is an experience advantage, instead of just a foregone conclusion based on little more than "extra time served".

    Moreover, this would seem to imply that all one needs to be considered experienced is to be old. That seems highly simplistic, to put it mildly.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    I thought I went into it a little. His experience, if he has a brain to go with it, would have taught him something about how to get things done in Washington, what's going on here and abroad, and hopefully some wisdom on what should and should not be done. "Executive experience" from being a big boss, a governor, or whatever, may additionally teach you how to be a good leader of a large organization. That's a special skill because the US government is a big and unwieldy thing, I'm sure. But, I'd say the importance of that stuff pales in comparison to wisdom regarding what we should do (in fact, I'd say he has staff to handle all the organization stuff).

    You could call that seniority, but I wouldn't do that and say seniority doesn't count for anything. He's had ample opportunity to learn a lot about governance, which I think is valuable. Obama has had a small taste of that opportunity; he has not had the chance to see and learn from a bunch of crap over the last decade or two. He may be more wise regardless, but not from political experience.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    I understand, I'd just like to see some actual data indicative of this gained wisdom.
     
  4. ROXRAN

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    I would like see actual data indicative that it is possible to gather such data...
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    LOL oh man I almost crapped myself reading this post. I can hear it in my head as I say it...
     
  6. vlaurelio

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    howbout simply knowing who sunnis and shiites are?
     
  7. ROXRAN

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    Where is your data which perpetuates such a statement?
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    The onus would be on McCain to show me. I'm not looking for a research paper on the subject, just some evidence that he has a worldly view marked by his experience that Obama is incapable of (due to the experience gap).

    So far, he has shown that this "gathered wisdom" is infinitely malleable depending on the political circumstances. That's not, I think, what JuanV was referring to.

    For example, I'd like to hear from anyone where McCain has pushed X legislation through congress, working in a bipartisan manner, compromising and/or remaining firm as appropriate (indicative of experience). Franchiseblade has repeatedly given links to similar (albeit limited) work done by Obama, but McCain supporters never seem to supply the evidence.

    I guess, Roxran, I'd like to hear McCain and his campaign give me meritous reasons to support McCain, instead of a barrage of shady rationale to avoid Obama.
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    Everywhere.
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    Mistakes happen...You should have heard Obama's gaffe unscripted speech:"...er...um...It's too expensive,...uh...It,...er, uh...It's too...hold on a second,...*laughs*...uhg..."

    I wish I had the video to this...(heard it on Hannity's radio show)
     
  11. SamFisher

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    Thank you for pointing this out - unfortunately for you, this highlights the number of times that McCain has made this error, which seems to indicate it's not a mistake but hints at an underlying mental defect, borne of ignorance or advanced old age.
     
  12. rhadamanthus

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    Nice dodge.
     

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