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McCain: Shouting 'Allahu Akhbar!' Same as Christians Shouting 'Thank God!'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DwightHoward13, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. treeman

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    I've gotta say it is somewhat entertaining seeing libs defend McCain on this.

    I've often wondered if McCain really would have been better than Obama. I shouldn't have to wonder that, as POTUS has been a disaster in nearly every way possible, and it's hard to think of anyone actually doing worse short of getting us into a nuke war or something. He has made us look back to Carter and wonder where the smart guys went... But I do. I do wonder...

    That's how we conservatives feel about McCain. We actually wonder whether he would have been worse than Obama. Think about that next time you try and label him as standard-bearer for our causes.
     
  2. Major

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    I'd point out that its the Republican Party that voted and picked him as the standard bearer for their causes. It's not a matter of anyone arbitrarily or wrongly labeling him such.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    He would have been better than W. Bush; but you guys needed to kick Clinton on the way out, so you screwed over the moderate veteran with two decades of federal experience because he didn't say "Jesus" in a primary debate. Then after eight years of fake unfunded wars and a financial collapse McCain's loyalty to your party made him look foolish to the rest of the country. Since you don't what an economic recovery, successful military exit strategy or expansion of human rights looks like; just ignore those gains and accept the failure of having elected Bush in the first place.
     
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  4. RedRedemption

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    Its due to more so the abolishing of all Christian theocracies. Sure Christanity became less extremist and less violent through the course of time, but that is an effect of the ending of theocracies and the weakening of the Church in the lives of individuals and the governments of the world.

    Islam has not undergone those same sets of events. You can make some argument that both religions are historically inherently violent, and its 100% true. However know that there are basically two forms of Islam today. The archaic radical one preached by the Imams and theocratic crazies in the Middle East and the more docile one being practiced by many people outside of that sphere. A sweeping secularist movement in the Middle East would have had the same effect of normalizing Islam just like Christianity was normalized but that hasn't happened yet.

    I think we should all be thankful that at least one of the two major world religions have been normalized or we'd be engulfed in perpetual religious wars and hanging people for their beliefs.
     
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  5. DwightHoward13

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    Why not comprehend this dogfight that has transpired before deciding that the most rational imbroglio of this colloquy is an emotion-riddled, wretched travesty of ratiocination?
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    He was in POW camp for this country. What the heck have you done?
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
     
  8. Kojirou

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    You haven't seen any video of American soldiers fighting where they don't shout things like "Jesus Christ", "Goddamnit", and so on?
     
  9. tallanvor

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    And that justifies him not paying attention during a war hearing how? If he was out drinking during the hearing, what would your response be?
     
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  10. justtxyank

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    Come on man. Most of the time that is spent in those hearings is by a politician making stump speeches that they hope will get shown on the news. How many times can you listen to someone make their impassioned pleas that sound exactly like the guy before them?
     
  11. tallanvor

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    Well you are making a different argument then the other people who seem to think McCain is justified in not paying attention due to a sacrifice he has made.

    You don't think he should listen intently when the country's representatives are discussing a war in a formal manner? How would he know if someone is making the same old argument he has heard 100 times if he isn't listening?
     
  12. justtxyank

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    You think playing on his phone makes it impossible to figure out what is being talked about? These hearings are a joke. Members of both parties ask the same questions over and over and most of the time their "questions" aren't really questions. They are speeches that end with a question mark.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    McCain is off base and you should not let your personal religion cloud your judgement.

    Because Allah is used overwhelmingly to refer to the god of islam, and in english "god" is much more commonly used without a specific religion in mind, the analogy is false.



    Moslem:Christian::Allahu Akbar:praise Jesus
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Don't go then. Be more productive by doing something in your office. Fill your highly paid day with functional activities. If your waiter was playing poker instead of taking your order you would be pissed. Bootlicker's job is more important and better paid.
     
  15. Cohete Rojo

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    Shouting Allah Akbar after killing someone is not the same as politely saying God Bless You after someone sneezes. The Republicans (and Democrats) need the the idea of war in Syria for many things: the failed Nabuco pipeline, justify past wars, Russia (Snowden and petrodollars), keep fear alive, pass the debt ceiling, etc.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    I think you can miss important information when your playing on your phone.

    So it is impossible for important arguments of information to come out during a war hearing?
     
  17. GanjaRocket

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    War hearings are just like your corporate boardroom..
    Someone's always on their phone.

    It's war but to them it's just a job lol
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    Does Allahu akbar literally mean "Allah is greater", possibly implying a superiority over other religions/Gods?
     
  19. RedRedemption

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    Even if it does its relatively insignificant. All religions consider themselves the superior, one true religion. The difference between them are the varying degrees of subtlety employed.
     
  20. Major

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    It means God is Great/Greater/Greatest - however you want to phrase it. But it means it in a larger context - God is the greatest thing in the whole world or God is greater than anything and everything else. It's not in comparison to other religions or Gods; it's in comparison to the everything in the universe.
     
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