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McCain Picks Palin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Aug 29, 2008.

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  1. thumbs

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    You missed the term "appears." For some reason I have lost my smilies so I couldn't add a wink or a rolleyes.
     
  2. rocketanalyist

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    Read my lips: I AM NOT A POLITICIAN. :eek: This is a forum to discuss ideas. :rolleyes:
     
  3. rocketanalyist

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    AGREED 100%!
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    So what was your point? I never said it makes the person better or worse. What were you getting at?
     
  5. Tree-Mac

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    I know, size matters. ;) Back to your post, so Texas has more issues than Alaska. More people to deal with, right? That is why there are more departments and personnel in Texas government. So again, the Texas governor only needs to talk to the people who runs the departments and those department heads only need to talk to the sub department heads and so on. The governor is not going to talk to a teacher at some school to get information about the education system in Texas and the budget it needs and so on.

    But since I'm not a governor or manager, I'll just say that maybe governing Alaska is not so tough as to governing Texas. But McCain said he's looking for someone who's ready go govern on day one? Picking a governor is exactly correct! It's not like Palin will have much power anyway. Also, experience seems to be Obama's weakness, so why his supporters are even bringing up experience to talk about?
     
  6. mc mark

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    More proof that the pick was..uh...less than stellar among Republicans...

    Palin Pick Leaves Bruised Feelings


    DENVER -- Though it was high in shock value, the Palin pick left bruised feelings among the short-list contenders who were not picked -- and infuriated some Republican officials who privately said McCain had gone out on a limb, unnecessarily, without laying the groundwork for such an unknown.

    Two senior Republican officials close to Mitt Romney and Tim
    Pawlenty said they had both been rudely strung along and now "feel manipulated."

    "They now know that they were used as decoys, well after McCain had decided not to pick them," one Republican involved in the process said.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/29/palin_pick_leaves_bruised_feel.html
     
  7. Refman

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    So...which is it? Is McCain just the same as Bush, et al or is McCain the guy that rocks the boat of the current Republican leadership?

    You can't have it both ways.
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    Yeah but I am willing to be the Texas governor has a lot more department heads to speak to and deal with than Alaska.

    How is it correct? Obama has experience at the highest levels of government in this country but like I have stated the whole experience thing is WAY overblown.
     
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    Sorry, double post.
     
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    Originally Posted by Rocketball
    Just a rhetorical question: Is there really a bid difference from being governor of Alaska as their is from being governor of Arkansas?

    You replied: I would say yes. Don't you think there is a difference in being governor of California than say Arkansas?


    Therefore I concluded that the "difference" gave the California governor more and better experience. Following your logic, that made Reagan more qualified and a better leader than Clinton.
     
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    You know what McCain is? A guy with the same policies as Bush. Who votes with Bush like 90% of the time (or at least agrees with him with that percentage). McCain is also a guy who chose Palin just to get some woman vote. Palin brings nothing to the table. If McCain was smart, he would have chose Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or Dole of Virginia, or even Condi Rice.

    McCain=Fail.
     
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    What I find disconcerting is that if something were to happen to McCain (he is old, you know), would we really want Mrs. Palin to take over the presidency? I'm sorry, but just the thought of that makes me really uncomfortable.
     
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    I guess it depends on which McCain shows up that day.

    ;)
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    I'm not saying that the governor of California is more qualified. I'm saying he has a lot more on his hands than the governor of Arkansas. You can assume that's what I meant but as I have stated experience is overrated. I was stating on the 'difference' between the two, which is something that cannot be denied.
     
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    Put your "roll-eyes" where the sun don't shine. You obviously haven't read this forum very much, going by the post I'm responding to. Trust me... it is perfectly clear that you aren't a politician, and I don't think anyone is going to get confused about that. As for your lips? You can read them yourself.
     
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    I think as time passes, more republicans will start to speak their true feelings of dissappointed about this selection. Time will tell.
     
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    I really don't care if you don't like my posts idiot. This is a free speech forum in a free country fool. If you don't like what I have to say, either post something logically to refute it, ignore it, or say something stupid like you just did. I really don't care as it is just a "FORUM" to express views.
     
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    Excellant points. It's not about him picking a woman, it's about the woman he picked over what other women or men that were available.

    McCain = BAD JUDGMENT = BAD TEMPERMANT = ME FIRST = FAIL
     
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    The difference is subtle, and I'm not the Dems will be able to effectively make the case simply using the word "experience". I think the value of experience is not how long you've been in office or anything like that, but the idea that you've been around and taken positions on things, and have been "seen in action". Here's where Palin and Obama are a bit different. Obama's been around long enough that people know where he stands on things - you can disagree with those stances or you can even argue he's a flip-flopper or what not, but he's taken positions on things. As of right now, Palin's never taken a stance on a foreign policy issue. Ever. So the argument is more that she's an unknown than that she's not qualified. The idea is that you have no idea what you're voting for at this point. If she was to have to take the Presidency, what would she do on Iraq? On the war in terror? Afghanistan, Russia, etc? You know that with Obama - but you have no idea whatsoever with Palin, because she's never talked about those issues.

    That said, she'll presumably come up with positions over the coming months - the job of the Dems will be to ingrain that image of you-have-no-idea before she effectively does so. The other question I've seen - and I think this is a good way to put the question of how she'll play out - is that she really is someone who could be your next door neighbor, and that's a very appealing idea now. But in November, do people really want their nextdoor neighbor as VP, or do they want someone who sort of looks and acts like their nextdoor neighbor and understands them, but isn't actually someone you'd expect to have as a nextdoor neighbor. Lots of dynamics at work, so we'll see how it plays out - I also think you'll be hearing the term "a heartbeat away from the Presidency" a whole lot more between now and November.
     
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    I think once the novelty wears off (easy to do in our 24 hour news cycle) this could really backfire. The state trooper investigation will be lurking in the background and people are going to start taling about her wacky views (Global warming is fake, creationism should be taught in schools )

    They might have to keep her under wraps depending on how mouthy she is and how quickly she adapts to being under 24/7 surveillance. Anyway the fantasy that feminist pro-Hilarites are going to vote for her because she's a chick is pretty much already DOA from my own independent research. If the press glams on to the "it's not working!" storyline it could really backfire, becuase if you throw up a Hail Mary pass and it's incomplete - the game is over.
     

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