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McCain: Not Sure How Many Houses He Owns

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. deepblue

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    You do understand that he was JOKING?
     
  2. Major

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    Well, unfortunately, since his only other answer to "How do you define rich" was "I want to keep taxes low", $5 million is all he gave me to go with. He had an opportunity to give another number (or even a fuzzy definition) and chose not to.
     
  3. radapharoah

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    just like that time he called his wife a **** :confused:
     
  4. deepblue

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    Then you are being purposely disingenuous, which is not surprising. :rolleyes:
     
  5. deepblue

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    What does this have to do with anything, try follow the thread before posting dumb one liner like this.
     
  6. radapharoah

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    it means mccain is a very funny guy always telling jokes and stuff...you know, it nice to answer serious questions with jokes.
     
  7. Major

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    My bad - I didn't realize your comment needed a serious response. Comparing someone who married into wealth and essentially had his Senate career handed to him and now doesn't even know how many homes he owns vs. someone who paid his way through school and actually earned his jobs and only got out of debt a few years ago, it seemed pretty obvious the relative elitism of the two.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    considering how much McCain and conservatives on this board take Obama totally out of context and take his jokes and turn them into cheap attack fodder, the other side has every right to return the favor.

    Sad, but Karl Rove is right.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    Why couldn't he give a real answer instead of joking?
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The funny thing is that I wouldnt think this was a big deal - after all, none of the houses are his - they all belong to his wife. They should have asked - how many houses does your wife own?

    And then asked - how many of them are yours? Or how many do you just live in. It's nice to have a sugga momma isn't it?

    Obama should just reply...."John McCain should have a sense of humor, all we were doing was trying to inject some fun into the campaign"
     
  11. CBrownFanClub

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    I am all about Obama, but this is bullcrap. Attacking each others policies is fine, but I think this is a box you dont need or dont want to open. Even though it was a relatively bad week for him - and the week before the convention, at which he will kick ass - this was unnecessary. Going personal with McCain, no matter how personal he gets with you, is not strong. It's more bullcrap.

    That being said, it will probably work more than all Obama's legit and positive ads.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    McCain wasn't joking about not knowing how many houses he owned. I just heard the audio, and he wasn't joking at all. He was stumbling through his response.
     
  13. radapharoah

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    he meant joking about making 5mil per year to be rich
     
  14. B-Bob

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    edit: rhoda already said it.
     
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    I would be willing to bet that B-Bob knows how many houses he owns.
     
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    I own one home.

    I am fit and ready to serve the nation.
     
  17. deepblue

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    And knowing how many homes he owns is no indication of one's elitism. For McCain, the homes are just another form of investments, I am sure a lot of people here don't remember the exact number of shares of the stocks they own. Its his financial adviser's job to know the exact allocation of his investments.

    Having less money doesn't automatically make you less of a snob, trust me I have met plenty of no so rich snobs here in new england.
     
  18. mc mark

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    The straight talking, maverick sure does spend a lot to maintain the hired help.

     
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    See? McCain is for increased wages, and creating new jobs... and he's not a hypocrite when he says it.


    What's the problem?
     
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    Honestly, this is a can of worms that Obama doesn't want to open. Obama should really stick to his game plan and not go negative because it will backfire on him. I've come to accepting Obama as President - I think he will do fine..BUT... He really needs to stop the name calling. He should be better than all of this. McCain on the other hand doesn't represent what I believe in and therefore I can't vote for him. Nevertheless, McCain has fought back with his own ad...

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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12700.html

    McCain family owns 8 properties
    By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 8/21/08 4:39 PM EST
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    John McCain's family owns at least eight properties — not the seven Democrats are alleging or the four McCain's staff identified — according to a Politico analysis of property and tax records, as well as interviews.
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    John McCain's family owns at least eight properties — not the seven Democrats are alleging or the four McCain's staff identified — according to a Politico analysis of property and tax records, as well as interviews.

    The presumptive Republican nominee, though, may have some wiggle room in explaining why he couldn't immediately provide an answer when asked by Politico how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own. Sen. McCain himself does not own any of the properties. They're all owned by Cindy McCain, her dependent children and the trusts and companies they control.

    Brian Rogers, a McCain spokesman, did not question Politico's analysis, but said his boss's bungling of the how-many-homes question is a nonissue.

    "Voters care a lot more about candidates' personal ethics than about how many houses or residences or doghouses that John and Cindy McCain own," he said. He questioned efforts by McCain's Democratic rival, Barack Obama, to exploit the issue, given that Obama benefited from a 2005 land deal with the wife of convicted Chicago businessman — and former Obama fundraiser — Tony Rezko that expanded the Obama family's newly purchased $1.65 million homestead.

    "The reality is that Barack Obama purchased his million-dollar mansion in a shady deal involving a convicted felon, and it raises questions about his ethics and judgment," said Rogers.

    Politico's analysis of the McCain records found that five of the eight properties were purchased between the summer of 2004 and this February, for a total of $11 million. And the analysis found that the McCains hired additional household help in 2007.

    The five new properties are all condominiums, and they include three in Phoenix — one of which became the couple's primary Phoenix residence after a Cindy McCain family trust in 2006 sold for $3.2 million the house in which they raised their children — and a pair outside San Diego.

    The new properties joined three previously owned by Cindy McCain, her dependent children and their trusts: a scenic ranch outside Sedona, Ariz., where John McCain has entertained staff, prospective running mates and political reporters; a three-bedroom Arlington, Va., condo that's been John McCain's Washington-area residence since 1993; a La Jolla, Calif. condo that is home to Cindy McCain's elderly aunt and on which the trust recently paid nearly $7,000 in back taxes.

    The condo that serves as the McCain's primary Phoenix residence was purchased in 2006 for $4.7 million by Cindy McCain's trust. It is a 6,600-square foot unit.

    Less than one year after the McCains acquired it, a corporation controlled by Cindy McCain bought another condo on a lower floor in the same building for $830,000.

    And, in between, the corporation plunked down $700,000 for a 1,900-square-foot, three-bedroom loft condo for their then-22-year-old daughter, Meghan, who was moving back to Phoenix after graduating from New York's Columbia University. The unit is now listed for sale at $730,000.

    Cindy McCain, through another family corporation, spent about $4.7 million in 2004 and 2008 on two condos in an exclusive building in Coronado, Calif., an affluent San Diego suburb noted for its high percentage of military retirees.

    In an interview with Cindy McCain in the June issue of Vogue magazine, conducted from the newer Coronado condo, she explained that her husband, a Navy veteran, initially wasn't keen on the idea of a pied-à-terre in Coronado.

    "When I bought the first one, my husband, who is not a beach person, said, 'Oh this is such a waste of money; the kids will never go,'" she said in Vogue. "Then it got to the point where they used it so much I couldn't get in the place. So I bought another one."

    A McCain campaign aide who did not want to be identified discussing the McCain's personal finances, told Politico this summer that — other than the primary Phoenix residence — the new condos were "purchased for investment and are available for personal use by the McCain family."

    The McCains increased their budget for household employees from $184,000 in 2006 to $273,000 in 2007, according to John McCain's tax returns.

    The additional cash supports an "increase in the number of employees," the McCain aide told Politico. The aide did not answer a question about whether the growing staff stemmed from addition of new properties to the family's real estate portfolio.
     

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