McCain Health Care Policy- "There are no uninsured Americans"

He was a spiritual adviser to Obama for 20 years, I'd say that's a pretty important role.

And Wright WAS part of Obama's campaign.

 

I'm sorry if I dont take everything my pastor says word for word like you neo-cons do...
You know, my pastor says dont **** until you get married. I **** all the time.

This is the guy who helped shape his health care plan! are you that dense THAT you cant see the difference?

 

Even as a disaffected conservative, I see statements and still wonder -- are the Republicans really this out of touch with reality? What color is the sky in their world? From claiming that the economy is fundamentally sound to statements like this ... it's one thing to disagree with the Democrats' plan to nationalize health care, it's another thing to completely bury your head in the sound and start redefining "uninsured" altogether.

 

mccain and his supporters just try to attack obama on irrelevant things.

who cares if he associates with ayers (that fool did what he did when obama was freakin' 11 years old?). you think obama remembers? i'm sure what they have done together is good things (reforming education in chicago).

and yes, if everyone takes their pastor by their word, most of the world would be at peace right now don't you think?

 

Typical Republican attitude. If we torture, we'll redefine what torture is. If people don't have insurance, we'll redefine what it means to be insured.

 

You don't have to listen to every word your pastor says, but he plays a big role on shaping your views and ideas (especially if you are there for 20 years). Yup, that's not important at.

And I am sure McCain's health plan would really be just that.

 

I guess this thread is the kind of "real discussion" that Trader_Jorge prevents from taking place.

 

What does being neoconservative have to do with this?

 

No need to be snide. It is, actually, a similar question. And Goodman is placed more closely to McCain than Ayers is to Obama. As usual, however, that doesn't a response to my argument make.

 

he brought up wright and made the assumption that obama puts great stock in what he says...I'm pointing out that not all people believe that church should have a say in government, Something neo-cons dont seem to agree with.

 

Wow

so that 13K Im still paying on from my last non-elective emergency surgery should be handled by the government?? Cause let me tell you....I cant quite figure out which insurance company I should send the bill to since none of them cover me.

I got news for you guys up there in washington.....ALOT of small companies DO NOT provide the option to insure thru them, and getting insurance for me and mine independently would put me in the poor house.

 

Uh, yeah. And what does that have to do with neoconservatism? You seem to be saying that neoconservatives don't believe in the separation of church and state - is that right?

 

But R2K, don't you see, you can walk into an emergency room. (Where you may wait for hours, fall over, and die on the floor, but I digress.)

So, you are insured, as long as you can somehow crawl into any emergency room! Don't worry.

As for the bill, I think, um, well, if you worry about it enough, you can just visit another emergency room.

 

not excatly but I am saying they use it as a shield to defend their logic.

 

No, it really isn't a direct response to my argument. Saying Goodman is closer to McCain than Ayers is to Obama doesn't affect the point. Someone can be a contributor to a position paper and then in another forum express their person opinion about a rhetorical tool - 'uninsured Americans' that does not encompass even their own view of healthcare, much less that of a candidate's platform which they contributed to.