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Mayor Pete Can't Get Black Support Is Lazy Liberal Media White Guilt

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. ghettocheeze

    ghettocheeze Member

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    Glad you understand and accept this aspect of Pete.

    When I say Buttigieg is not a viable national candidate, I'm not trying to attack him. It's a conclusion drawn from what available in front of me.

    like I said, the black voter issue may be unfair to Buttgieg at this point, but that comes with the territory when your are running for the moderate center lane, which requires majority black support to be viable. That's the only reason Biden is still in this race.

    Buttigieg is doing what's honestly best for him right now by staying in this race for as long as possible and raising his national profile to make another run in 2024 and beyond when he's a more polished candidate and has iron out his weaknesses. He's only 38 and has a lot of potential to carry the moderate torch in the party.
     
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    As a democratic socialist I am not a big fan of "woke" liberal and moderates who weaponized identity politics to attack those who want a big decrease in economic inequality between classes.

    However, two tweets about Mayor Pete do reveal much

    grimly funny that after four years of “listen to black and brown folx” tweets the democratic establishment is coalescing around the candidate with 0% support from people of color
    --- ( ok 5% is greater than 0%)



    and “Senator Sanders won an estimated 67 percent of the Latino vote in Iowa compared to 11 percent for former Vice President Joe Biden, 8 percent for Senator Warren, and 5 percent for Mayor Buttigieg.” #UnidosConBernie
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    In politics mayor is a dead end job in terms of bigger aspirations. The main reason is itz really a hands on results oriented job. The mayor has to get the trash collected and decrease crime, and its really unique so it doesn't lead to anything.

    There are other positions in politics with particular statistical objectives but pretty much everything mayor does is tangible and therefore open to tangible praise or criticism.

    *Sidenote: Bloomberg in one his ads talks about increasing the amount of residents in New York with insurance. Maybe Im wrong but it seems like he is taking credit for something he had nothing to do with
     
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    Not a big fan of Pete but it really has nothing to do with his relations with the black community. I think he'd be okay on race stuff if he became president. If African Americans have a problem with him, they can vote for someone else and then we'll count the votes. I don't worry too much about representing for people who have votes of their own (recognizing, meanwhile, that too many have been disenfranchised of their vote).

    I do agree with the premise that there's a lazy journalistic narrative here. Once this idea that he couldn't get black voters started, it snowballed and took a life of its own. Now journalists feel they have to ask about it or write about it every time, just to reinforce what's already been said. It's like an acquaintance who knows nothing about you except that you're a basketball fan -- so that whenever you cross paths the only thing he can think to talk about is how the Rockets are doing. But this is a unique challenge for Pete. Tulsi had that problem with the cult questions (and fielded it poorly), Williamson had it with her spiritualism stuff, Yang gets it for gimmickry, Biden for awkward interpersonal exchanges, Sanders for being a "radical." A smooth poltiician (which Pete is) should be able to diffuse those things.

    I think this is actually more problematic -- using laws in a capricious way to persecute certain subcultures in your community you've deemed undesireable. I understand the problems that gangs can pose, but that does not give you carte blanche to unevenly apply the law.
     
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  6. glynch

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    Well you can't start off your term as mayor by firing the first black police chief at the behest of white police officers and your main financial contributors. To be fair, Pete is now too experienced at least as a small town mayor and would not do that anymore
     
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    At least mayor Pete has not ventured to Russia to set up a sister city like your hero did with the Soviet Union when he was a mayor.
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Seems he is losing black voters.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/berni...-voters-cratered-by-more-than-half-in-a-week/
     
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    So you think it's as simple as legalizing weed?

    You think that would be a huge relief?

    Really?
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I agree candidates have their unique challenges that are based in facrs or not. Its part of the test the primary is
     
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    Can you link to him saying this?

    Seems like that would more of a big deal.
     
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    I still say he needs to croon some Lou Rawls at his rallies. That’ll show he has some swag.

    “Why should we vote for you, anyway?!”

    “You’ll never fiiiiiiiiind.....another love like mine....”
     
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    Found out why 2018 spiked! South Bend changed how they tracked/classified crimes

     
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