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maybe we have a star?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by YaoMing#1, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. thejav

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    To bad we will never know..I don't see him getting any playing time this season..most likely getting traded or released...
     
  2. RX2012

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    Kevin Martin and Luis Scola are the stars. And if you disagree, that's too bad becuz you're only looking at results under an Adelman system of play.
     
  3. Showtizzle2642

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    Honestly i think Williams can be a derrick rose type point guard on this team, he justs needs to be given more playing time. Thats the only thing holding him back is lack of pt.
     
  4. Bo6

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    The best offensive players in the NBA


    Amir Johnson, Nene, CP3, James Jones, Chris Anderson


    cool stat
     
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  5. AggieRocketsFan

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    Stars win games.
     
  6. blunto

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    Hopefully.
     
  7. MajorSeanBond

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    ^^LOLOLOL^^
     
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    True or false: a player's style of play can affect the outcome of games regardless of how many points he scores, especially on a team with a very, very small point differential like the Houston Rockets?

    Case studies: Steve Francis, Aaron Brooks, Kevin Martin.

    I say this only because I assume I don't know more than coach Adelman about Williams' actual value to the team.
     
  10. dobro1229

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    Having to have the ball in your hand = below average player?

    -well I wouldn't go that far. If a player has an elite skill-set and talent level then its an option for your offense to run through them if you have players that complement that scorer and an offensive system that allows that. Which is pretty much just running a pick and role for that player to create the offense.

    I would say that Terrence's style of play is more along the lines of McGrady or Lebron "the facilitator" than that of an Allen Iverson who is looking to get himself a shot first and foremost.

    When TWill states that he is a point guard he isn't really lieing, but he needs the offense to run through him in order to be affective (It can be said that Lebron is really playing point guard throughout most of the game as well.)

    If its not the case, then alot of times Terrence has a tendency to stand at the three point line and wait for the ball. This is not condusive to the offensive sets that Adelman has been running all season.

    I totally agree that Terrence could add something to the defensive end of the ball, but offense typically tends to trump defense with Adelman's style of coaching. Mostly by the way you fit into the offense. Defense is only part of the equation.

    For Example - Chuck Hayes might have most value defensively but on offense, he fits in perfectly with his role in Adelman's system although his job is not to score.

    If Terrence doesn't conform to Adelman's system then its hard to see him getting on the floor until the summer when they can work him in better with the gameplan next season.

    If a trade happens that forces playing time for Terrence the the system might have to change in order to conform to Twill, not the other way around.

    You are totally right though that there is virtually no evidence that he has the elite skill-set that would warrant Adelman to scrap one of the top offenses in the NBA. Maybe in the future but not this season.
     
  11. oddjob142

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    Honestly, can you imagine getting paid to do something you enjoy and then not being able to play? It cannot be anything other than personal/political bs that is keeping him from playing. I am surprised he is dealing with it so well. I mean, sitting on the bench every single night, watching others play, practicing your ass off, sitting there for hours just watching...hoping to play just a freaking minute to prove your worth. I still see him positive and not throwing a fit like many "other" players. Alot has been said about JJ and how he handles not playing...I have to say, Williams is keeping his composure pretty damn well.

    ADELMAN, get the stick out of your butt and give him some minutes. When you did, he has done very well and was unselfish with the basketball. What more do you want???
     
  12. emjohn

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    If the Rockets do two different 3-for-1 deadline deals, I'll be happy if for no other reason than easing the idiotic logjams.
     
  13. AXG

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    That's what I don't understand. If he has talent and can help the team, you play him. You don't waste his talents on the bench. Look at what his so called rotation has brought him, a sub-.500 team on the outside looking in at the PO.
     
  14. aeolus13

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    Actually, I'm pretty sure that playing T-Will hurts our chances of winning, as increased minutes for him mean less for the more experienced players in front of him. In other words, we'll improve our chances of drafting a valuable player this offseason while giving a promising young asset more in-game experience.

    Yes, we should play him.
     
  15. coachbadlee

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    If the Rockets do any deadline deals, Williams will be involved. I fear that we will never get to see his potential until he torches us on another team.
     
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    The fans already stated that they are upset with Ricky not playing him. i dont know how much clearer we have to be...
     
  18. dobro1229

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    This is all Adelman here. This shows you that Morey and the Front office give Adelman 100% control over the coaching and rotations. Which is a good thing in some respect.

    To be fair you really have to look at this from Adelman's perspective.

    1. To play Terrence consistently you would have to totally re-shape the offense around him. The gameplay was designed at the beginning of the season to complement the players he had. Terrence has a different style of play and would require the gameplan and style of play to go out the window.

    2. You also would have to bench players like Battier, Bud, Lee, Brooks/Ish, in order to get him in. Those players are all key to winning and have been all season long. How do you bench a role player who was doing his job correctly? Is it worth it to piss off the vet that has worked his butt off to give this young guy who just got here my minutes because he was good in the D-League??

    3. Terrence is not a role player, and has yet to show that he can be one. There is not one player in the rotation that could go down and Terrence would be able to/ or willing to step right in and perform the same task without mental breakdowns without changes being made to the style of play. He might be more talented, but can he perform their role better at the moment? not sure about that.

    4. Trades - Its possible that management has communicated to Adelman that the players who are currently in the rotation might be packaged at the deadline in one or several different trades and taking them out of the rotation will hurt their trade value. Treat Terrence as a rookie prospect that has a future with the team after they spend some time on the practice court and has an offseason to learn the system and the defense.

    -Just some perspective to think about from Adelman's perspective. He has a reputation of being a great player's coach and has the respect of every player who has played for him (except maybe Tmac).
     
  19. Arun Sharma

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    I don't know what it is... may be it's just that they don't want to trade him so keeping his value low till the deadline. Or may be, it's just he really is not getting the system (I don't see catching adjusting his plan for him). All I know is RICK wants to WIN! GM wants team to WIN and OWNER wants team to WIN. They don't enjoy toyota center being empty. Most importantly, those guys are not idiots or else they would not have been where they are. Not only that they are smart, but they also know the most. We don't know anything!! ANYTHING! We are just guessers.

    And as much I would like to see T-Will, I have not really seen anything in limited that excited me as much as some other people.
     
  20. mikol13

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    Yeah because the Rockets love too trade first round picks for a player they're going to release. Ridiculous.
     

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