Maybe so-called "players coach" Rick Adelman is the problem

Can we combine all of the Rick Adelman hate threads? It makes it easier to read...

Anyway, yeah...let's not look at the man's results...just the fact that he didn't play Yao right...yeah, he made him run/play too much...darn these basketball coaches making their players run....darn them...

 

I AGREE... can (If a chance) get rid of T-Mac and offer King James a butt load of money to come to houston next the guy is young not injury prone and just amazing! imagine this starting lineup Landry,Brooks,Ariza,Yao,James very possible rocekts have the money! and with this move Les will make more money! think about it? can someone make this a post? I'm on rookie status can't create post :0(

 

I AGREE... can (If a chance) get rid of T-Mac and offer King James a butt load of money to come to houston next year the guy is young not injury prone and just amazing! imagine this starting lineup Landry,Brooks,Ariza,Yao,James very possible rocekts have the money! and with this move Les will make more money! think about it? can someone make this a post? I'm on rookie status can't create post :0(

 

Oh you poor soul, you are so confused.

 

What the hell is going on? Are you guys really that much of Tmac nuthuggers that you have to bash Coach Adelman now?

 

lol... I guess dude! w/out a superstar there is no shot at the FINALS.

 

Oh, please. Adelman is an established coach who doesn't have to take a backseat to anybody in the league.

 

huh?

Yao didn't care for him - proof needed.

huh?

Wafer did the wrong thing, admitted it, and has SINCE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RE-SIGNING WITH THE ROCKETS (when healthy).

So by your own words, Artest can't play?

Clearly you are NOT in a position to assess what makes a good player at NBA level, therefore whatever you say about Adelman (a coach with a career win % of 60) should be taken as mere drivel from an ill informed ignoramus.

McGrady is the one who has asked for a trade (allegedly) - the team was TRYING to integrate him in a way that proved beneficial for a team that has as good a win % as McGrady's teams ever had. The team is JUST FINE without him, and it's up to him to prove that he actually HAS recovered from his illness and ACTUALLY IS willing to fit in - instead of the ridiculous scenario that took place last season happening again.

If there was a simple choice of McGrady or Adelman, for those who can see clearly (having put away their myopic McGrady lenses) - the choice is simple. Adelman has something to offer, MeGrady won't fit the team.
Re-signing him at a reduced rate would prove little considering that Ariza is providing the same production (ie - bad FG%, rebounds and passes well) - but at least Ariza's defensive intent is greater than McGrady ever was (even given that Trevor isn't playing as well on that end as he previously has).

Really great thread - well researched, great links provided - thanks for doing this!

 

I place most of the blame on McGrady. He thought he deserved more minutes, and he might have been right. But six games into a season in which your team is playing winning b-ball is not the time to talk about it.

He should've shown a little more patience and a little less sense of self-entitlement.

On the other hand, from what I've read, many star players are primadonnas who expect to be handled with care; and in exchange for such treatment, they carry their teams to playoff glory. Many coaches recognize this and seem willing to give in to their stars, stroking their ego a little to coax the best performance out of them.

Adelman, however, seems unwilling to play this game, and his recent policy toward McGrady shows it. He required the individual to change to fit the system instead of the other way around.

Now, I have no problem with this; I even find his team-first approach admirable and "ethically sound", not to mention fun to watch. However, I do wonder if this stance comes with a price as well, which is not getting the most out of the talents with more fragile egos.

Such as McGrady.

 

Only problem is when Tmacs ego was being stroked he still couldn't get the team to playoff glory

 

Yes we are aware of that, there is no way if we trade, buy out, or let Tracy expire that we can land a max contract type player, not enought money for it.

It's been visited again and again and again, es okay though you're just a noob. :grin:

 

Is there a way to virtually throw up on a thread?

 

me too

 

von wafer??? von wafer looks like he has self esteem problems.

 

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I know I'm not supposed to pull a moestavern but screw it-- the OP and whoever agrees with him are complete morons.

 

I have to spread reputation around before giving more to you.

 

RA does good with the talent he has, but he screwed up tmac. We should have got so much more.

 

How do you figure? You think that playing him 5-6 more minutes a game would have helped his trade value? IMO, his trade value was already near rock bottom to begin with:

1. Oft injured
2. Coming off of microfracture surgery
3. The prima donna attitude he's had since he worked his way out of Orlando
4. That albatross of a contract that makes it hard to get any close to equal value in a trade.

He had things working against him before Adelman gave him those minutes. McGrady worked his way out this time because he reverted back to Me-Mac. You don't see it? Look back at the first two games he played in: he swung the ball around, made team-offense decisions, etc. Now go to the last couple of games he played in and what do you see? The offense now went back to the old day where players (no matter how much better they are now) are begrudgingly giving him the ball because he commands it. There are numerous occasions where Landry or Brooks would have taken a jump shot or ran the offense but gave it up to McGrady. People might think "well, they're adults. they can do whatever they want--no one said they had to give the ball up to McGrady" Right but McGrady was the star of the team and these guys only sees him as such--a star and not a role player.

I don't care if we take on Eddie Curry's contract just so we get rid of McGrady. That will just be an expiring contract we'll dangle around the league two Februarys/Summers from now.

 

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