Maybe it's time for Rockets and Lin to part their ways

How does one players opinion of another make it fact about his play? Anyone can say anything. Jordan said LeBron would never be as good as him. So is that a fact also? Lin cannot be a starting guard for just any team. He has certain requirements in order for him to be effective. He needs the ball in his hands and needs to be the primary ball handler. According to powwow here he can't sit on the bench too long or else he goes cold.

This is why in his current state he will never be anything other than a average to slightly above average pg. And thats not hating, it's being real.

 

Chill dude , check your sarcasm meter .

 

I would love to see Lin traded to Portland. They're a true "team" with no egos. Look at their last game against Philly after they defeated us, ridiculous 21 3s and 139 points against Philly. The most impressive aspect of that, was the fact that no one had more than 15 shots, no one had more than 20 points, EVERYONE played and scored, 41 assists (wow!), on 55%fg/56%3pt. That shows how much the team moves the ball, shoots well, can hit the long 2, inside the paint, and shoot the 3.

 

And that's YOUR opinion, which I give much less credit compared to Parker's opinion.

 

If you look at the recent Rockets vs GSW, a measly 20 assists with Harden taking 22 shots(like really?? 22??) The only person I saw that made that many shots last night was Carmelo Anthony(22) vs Atl but he scored 35 points on 13/22 shooting. Its also really ironic how the Knicks had only 19 assists. Anyone see a correlation? We also had exactly 32 rebounds....while the Knicks had...32 rebounds too. The only difference was that ATL had only 34, while GSW had 56!! 56?? lol really?? We got the #1 and #2 rebounding leaders in the NBA from last year and you get outrebounded by over 20 from a bad rebounding team like GS. Also, notice CP have only 1 rebound after getting yelled at by DH for "rebounding". I just think the Rockets chemistry is getting worse and worse, and if shots are falling there's going to be a lot of unhappy egos in the locker room.

 

Guys get injured and you act like Lin makes a ton of money. For his skills, he makes an average amount of money. I'm not saying SA should do it or want them to do it, but I can make a case for them doing it. Manu goes down as well and Lin is a playmaker that can play with Parker as well.

 

lol paying 15 million dollars to someone just in case your star plays happen to get injured. Great Logic.

 

You do understand that fast break points and rebounds are inversely proportional right? And that the Rockets outscored the Warriors 27 to 8 in that department. And that the Rockets second best rebounder was sitting in a tie and jacket on the bench.

 

Lin is that you? lol request a trade please!! do us a favor

 

OK, Jordan has a big ego. So does Oscar Robertson who said nobody is as good as he was. Parker see qualities in Lin that he saw in himself at the same point in their careers. Nobody can predict ultimately than Lin will be Parker one day, I'm not saying that. But Lin is a star like player at times and a pretty crappy looking one at other times. Overall he is a work in progress.

Lin is a starting caliber point guard and he plays better defense than a lot of announcers and people give him credit for. I stay away from stuff like "he will never" because that's predicting and unless you are a true psychic, nobody knows what he'll turn out to be as he's knocked down others limiting what he'll be for years.

 

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I am surprised that you said Lin could be slightly above average pg at least. I consider myself a realistic Lin fan (don't care for his humbleness though), but I put Lin's ability anywhere from average to top 7 PGs, so we are not that far apart. The reason I say this is that if ever Lin loses his quick first step, his effectiveness will plummet. For the same reason, I think D Rose's game will plummet if he ever recovers from his injury, because these two players are not known for finesse or hesitation moves. For myself, I just want Lin to have a long career in NBA as an average to very good PG/SG.

 

A 25 year old who is developing like Lin? And how old is Manu and how often is he injured? I wouldn't put Lin on the Spurs now but I don't think it is outrageous if a GM did. The Spurs are aging. But they have Leonard, he's going to be big in their future.

 

Harden scored 26 points on 22 shots. Way above the NBA average of 0.96 points per shot. And he had 9 assists, far above the average for NBA point guards.

 

While I remain skeptical about Beverly's talents it is clear that he is the coaches' choice as the starting point guard of this team. Combined with Harden's playmaking I don't see the benefit to having a 15 million dollar bench player.

Best to trade him while we can still get anything of value for him. Though I am also skeptical about his trade value right now, but it's unlikely to get higher with the balloon payment next season. (Yes I know what the cap hit is, but lets not pretend like 7 million dollars extra cash is nothing. OKC could have kept Harden for less than that and they chose to trade him.)

I agree with you about Harden. If he gets injured we can forget about a championship, Lin or no Lin.

 

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I would qualify your response to say that
Lin is a staring caliber point guard" in some teams but not in all teams. I would say Lin could be a starting caliber PG in around 5 teams in NBA, but he would be a back-up PG in over 50% of current NBA teams. I don't think he can significantly improve upon his weaknesses, such as his handle.

 

If Harden gets injured and is out for 3 weeks, Lin can make a difference in 80 percent of the games he missed. Even if he is out for longer. We get it, trade Lin. You say that in just about every post. But the guy is a Rocket now, can you find a scenario if he isn't traded to best use him because he may not be? And he makes what he makes and that's not 15 million yet. He's in the second season and that's 5.2 or whatever it is and it averages out to 8.whatever it is.

 

He is not going to be best utilised on this team, the coaches have no faith in him, and that is clear.

He is going to be untradable next season and probably leave after that. So now is the time to get something for him if anything is available. It might not be.

It is best for both Lin and the Rockets for him to be traded now, before the balloon payment hits. It's going to be tricky finding a team to take that on though that will give us something of value in return.

His cap hit of 8 million could be much better utilised elsewhere.

 

That's your opinion. I see a guy making a difference for the Rockets and him starting or not isn't that big a deal if he's averaging 32 minutes which he was for most of the season. I think McHale has show plenty of faith in him this season and the last few games of Sampson's playing him less minutes don't count as much as he's coming off an injury. Fact is, he's a Rocket now and he may not be traded. If so, are you going to say all season or until the trade deadline trade him or use him to help the Rockets win games?

 

Most of the players on the team make a difference for the Rockets and whoever we trade for likely will as well.

It's all about value and efficiency. I don't see Lin's 8 mill cap hit and 15 million balloon payment next season as good value on this team. We can use that money better elsewhere.

We have a good enough three guard rotation with Harden, Beverly and Brooks.

 

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while i don't think Lin is oer se overpaid, it makes more sense for Rickets and Lin for Lin to be traded.