And the Pakistani government isn't blowing up trains or planes in the western world. In fact the Pakistani government is our ally in the war against extremists. Now a questionable ally at best but I doubt that offending them is going to improve that relationship. Sure and it is others to decide what they get offended about. What you are doing is deciding though who should get offended over what. Maybe you should get desentized over this issue and start devoting more energy to some other issues.
Why then did you say they should get desensitized to it? YOu are exactly saying that Muslims shouldn't get offended over cartoons of Mohammed since while you say you are targeting extremists you are going about it in such a broad brush way that you are going after every Muslim. That argument makes no sense at all. You are saying that if people censor due to threats that is worng that is censorship but censorship ahead of time because someone might find it offensive isn't? That is such ridiculous spin as to be nonsensical. Its censorship either way. The difference is that CF.net realized ahead of time the amount of offense that would caused by not filtering that word.
No - that is not what I am doing. What I am doing is taking a stand against those who get so offended that they will actively turn violent, threaten with violence or take joy in people having to fear for their life. Again, anyone can be offended about anything. Be my guest.
In contrast to the attempted axe murderer in Denmark I am not "going after" anyone. It makes perfect sense. Sorry if you don't get it.
I will tell them that my intent is not to offend them, but to take a stand against those who try to restrict free speech by intimidation tactics. If they do not like that explanation, that is their prerogative.
It is a free decision made by the owner of the site (or pre-set by the bbs software makers, I don't know). If you cannot understand the difference between that and someone threatening you with death and you therefore censoring something, I can't help you.
How? I am saying that anyone can be offended about anything, as long as they are peaceful. At the same time, I am saying that I don't understand why someone would be so offended by something. That does not mean I tell them they cannot be offended...just that I personally don't follow their thought process.
What's the point of asking why someone is offended ("Why would it offend so many people?") and thinking that they shouldn't be offended ("Can you explain what the big deal is?") when you REALLY don't care if they get offended ("Again, anyone can be offended about anything."). You fail because you contridicted yourself. You fail because you've been exposed as someone who is against Islam's ideology, not someone who is objectively defending free speech.
DaDakota with a weak and childish response. LOL @ strong powerful woman. Nice try Dada, but leave these kinds of "ooooo I guess she tollldddd them" responses in the GARM.
No, I did not. I cannot follow why they are offended, but it is their prerogative to be offended - as long as it does not turn into violence, threats and intolerance. Unfortunately, apparently for some muslims and some muslim countries, it is a thin line between being offended and taking intolerant and violent action. What's the difference? What is "Islam's ideology", according to you?
What is weak and childish about the response? What is there to laugh @ strong powerful woman? She is. She is getting threatened with death for her opinion, and she will not bow to those who attempt to intimidate her...in the name of Islam.
Why can't someone be both? Especially when it seems one of the tenets of Islam is in conflict with the right to free speech.
I dont think anyone would get killed. Go to Pakistan and draw a picture of Muhammad and see what happens. You'd probably get beheaded.
Are you serious? We've been discussing the issue of showing the Prophet's image the whole time. That is an ideology (the concept of not showing the Prophet's face in order to deter people from idolizing him) of Islam. You think its nonsense, while I think it makes a lot of sense. Whether you believe it or not, you're using the guise of free speech to try to take a swing at the ideology. You can think that this concept is the dumbest thing in the world, good for you. What most here are upset about is the fact that you (and a lot of other people) are using free speech as an excuse. You can be all for free speech. But the minute you asked why Muslims are offended shows proof that you have an issue with the fact that Muslims care so much of the Prophet not being shown. If you truly only cared only about free speech, then you would never mention the "why" part. You would only care about the "what". This small detail really makes me doubt that you are genuine in any of this.
Except didn't you think that CF.net made that decision ahead of time because someone might find it offensive? That is what you are completely missing and why your argument is nonsensical. The decision was made to avoid offense in both cases. One was apriori the other was expost facto.
