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May 20: Everybody Draw Mohammad Day

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, May 13, 2010.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    I think I'll make a statue of Hakeem Olajuwon instead. None of this #34 jersey crap, either. Take that you Muslim extremists.
     
  2. CrazyDave

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    I get it and all, but why do people feel they must use extreme examples to shock others to "demonstrate" their free speech? It's supposed to protect you when people don't agree with what you're saying, rather than give you all the rope you need to hang yourself by inciting anger in others out of spite.

    I'm not against others doing it, but I can't get with this. Not out of fear, or complacency, but out of not agreeing with its intent and method. Oh, and ambivalence. What do I care if certain people get crazy when people say and do certain things. I don't need to prove I have free speech by upsetting them.

    Lastly, I don't think that knowing Revolution Muslim acts the way they are, without making a point to remind them in the most offensive way (to them) this is a country of free speech, means we need to invest in American Burkha Co.
     
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  3. insane man

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    western nations conceptions of freedom of speech are much more complicated than you think. swastika's in germany are forbidden. and in many other european countries. as is denying the holocaust. in france you can go to jail for positive presentation of drugs. in germany insults can be a crime. in america you can have fighting words, which is basically a one-on-one incitement.

    stop pretending like this is a simple issue. this isn't political speech. this is a version of hate speech. and while i couldn't care less if it was done/allowed/banned, its not as critical to freedom of speech as you pretend.
     
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  4. Honey Bear

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    I've decided start things off early (that's just how I party guys).

    [​IMG]

    I've always pictured him to be a blonde.
     
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  5. Major

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    Agreed - I don't see the end result benefit of this. On May 21st, how is the world a better place? You have a bunch of additional regular Muslims who think now they West dislikes or mocks them, and maybe go from regular to angry. You might have a few dead cartoonists if any of the true extremists follow through on their threats. And we're no closer to any resolution of anything. How is this beneficial?

    This is like the Greece protesters. A bunch of people who are angry and have no idea why and no real way to solve anything, but just think it's cool to protest and incite people for the hell of it.
     
  6. moestavern19

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    Why is there a ninja?
     
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  7. cson

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    Not so Crazy Dave! :grin:
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's become pretty obvious with your multiple Muslim cartoon threads and your thread denouncing Muslim prayer in public that you're not some righteous defender of free speech but rather a Muslim hater. Get over yourself. It's one thing to defend freedom of speech but it's something totally different to continue insulting people's religious beliefs. Some of you Europeans deserve to get your asses kicked.
     
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  9. Honey Bear

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    The ninja costume is a symbol of the humble values this progressive religion has managed to maintain while integrating itself seamlessly into the 21st century economy. Also, my rendition of Mohammed finds himself more likely to rape women who don't wear it.

    Yeah, because it was the Europeans who decided to bring democracy and freedom to Afghanistan and the Middle East, sacrificing thousands of lives for their own financial gain. I guess when there's billions of oil dollars at stake, it's called taking care of business (not being a hater).
     
  10. Mulder

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    Sorry, but I feel that freedom of speech is more important than possibly offending someone's religion, including my own. That is one of the reasons this country was founded.

    Plus what if I do this on May 20th? Mohammed -> :grin:

    Is that going to offend "them"?

    If not, what about this?

    Mohammed -> [​IMG]

    Where is the line?
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Nope. I've defended the right of all of the previous cartoonists to do what they did, and stated they shouldn't be censored or hindered in any way in drawing those and making those cartoons. The publishers and networks shouldn't bow down to the extremism and print or air the cartoons as intended by their creators.

    People can draw their stupid Mohammad cartoons. I'm not saying they should be stopped by authority, but I personally am against it, because I'm against a-holes as well censorship. Random people drawing cartoons in an effort to offend people isn't about free speech. If you think it is, you degrade the struggle for free speech.

    The original cartoons had a reason behind them. They were done in an "artistic" endeavor. The idiotic cartoon will draw is done purely to be an a-hole.

    I'll still speak out against extremists who would use violence to try and stop the cartoonists, but I have no interest in anyone who just wants to be a jerk to a huge population of people.
     
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  12. MadMax

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    repped. i could not agree more.
     
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  13. Qball

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    Glad some see ATW for the fraud he is.
     
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    It isn't done purely to be an a-hole. It is a direct response to attempts to intimidate those involved in the "artistic endeavors" that you believe in. If nobody was threatening violence against those artists, nobody would be doing this "Draw Mohamed Day".

    It is a way of saying that we all stand together and that using violence to try and intimidate us out of our free speech will have the opposite effect. It's the same idea as a "Take Back The Night" march, though from one perspective, I guess you could say all those women marching together are being a-holes to rapists.
     
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  15. Honey Bear

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    You have no idea what you're talking about, which is probably why MadMax agrees with you. The real purpose of Draw Mohammed Day isn't to foster hatred or violence, it's to show violence will not intimidate or cause free speech to regress. It's letting the fundamentalist Muslims know their need for violence due to bitter angst will backfire on them.
     
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  16. MadMax

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  17. CometsWin

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    Not sure what repeatedly insulting someone's entire religion has to do with Iraq but I have no problem with anyone that wants to kick Bush's ass. As for Afghanistan, don't knowingly welcome, train, and harbor mass murderers and you won't get blown up. It's that simple in their case.
     
  18. Major

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    Really? So you think your posting a cartoon on Clutchfans is going to somehow cause fundamentalism Muslims to reconsider their position?

    Simple question: On May 21st, what do you think is going to be the positive result of this exercise?
     
  19. amaru

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    It isn't. There is no rule in Islam saying that you cannot draw Muhammad

    Drawings of Muhammad are hard to find b/c they want to cut down on the amount of people who would worship him.

    He is simply the messenger, not the God.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    I've already started working on my May 20th drawing this afternoon. Here is a pic of my progress so far.

    [​IMG]
     

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