It's neither hypocritical nor circular. What do I know what other sensitivities people from various religions come up with. Suddenly someone came up with this "you must not depict Mohammed" thing and now leftist posters and other do-gooders are saying anyone who does this is a jerk because poor Muslims might be offended. Next thing, Muslims in Scotland are OUTRAGED that the police used a puppy picture to inform about a new telephone number. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...turing-cute-puppy-sitting-policemans-hat.html What's next, are the same leftist posters going to cater to those sensitivities, too, and call me a jerk for sending postcards with puppies on them? Where does that end? Sooner or later, some Muslims will say they are offended because Bavarians eat pork sausages. They are offended because people drink alcohol in a country where they have chosen to take domicile. Etc. (I am not making these up, this is already happening.) You cannot cater to the sensitivities of everyone. People can be offended about anything. At some point you HAVE TO OFFEND so that they will just have to learn to deal with it, instead of using the "I'm offended"/"I'm outraged" card to force their standards upon everyone else.
So you're forcing your standard on others and that's okay? It's hard to take you seriously when you can't even comprehend your own hypocrisy. Maybe we should just release every criminal from prison because we clearly locked them up out of our own oversensitivity to their "crimes". Who cares if they shot someone, everybody dies eventually anyway. We'll just tell the victims' emotional family to deal with it and piss off. They're just "feelings" afterall
What are you talking about? When you shoot and kill someone, you are hurting a lot more than their feelings. The only standards being "forced" here are the standards of an extreme group of Muslims that we shouldn't draw something or have pictures of dogs. No one is telling them what to draw or what to worship, but they feel the need to lecture the rest of society about it. Actually, they aren't lecturing, they are threatening with violence.
Nope, I am saying to others, that their standards are their own......and if it offends them, they are free to say so...but to expect others to be offended, or cater to their beliefs is unrealistic, and won't happen. No one is saying that drawing cartoons about Mohammed is great, but to have people threaten violence over that because they are offended is ridiculous. Because the only answer to that would be another overeaction...which is even more ridiculous. DD
Of course it hurts more than just emotionally, there are tons of financial and social factors involved in the aftermath of someone's death. I don't even know why you bothered pointing out the flaws of an extreme example originally used at as a throwaway comment to mock the ridiculous hypocritical way some people were using to justify this whole "lets all draw their prophet" mess. And nobody is cheering for those extremists either. This is the exact problem from the original south park thread, people automatically go into a "we vs. them" mentality, most of those people didn't even see the episodes themselves. That's...exactly what it means to set your standards on others. This thread seems to indicate otherwise. Of course violence is never the answer and only serves to cause more ridiculous overreactions, but ridiculous overreactions will happen anyway when all these wannabe Galileo's paint up their own versions of the heliocentric theory on May 20th. Yet they wanna do it anyway.
No it's not, I am sorry you are missing the point...which is....to each his own..... If you are offended by pictures of Mohammed drawn as a cartoon chowing on a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich, then I could understand it. But, I will stand by those that drew the cartoon as they have the right to poke fun at the rigidity of those standards. Being overlsy sensitive about such things only invites more of the same. And honestly we have fougth wars over such intolerance.........freedom is worth it. DD
I'm the one who is seriously at a loss here. Why are you so adamant on insisting that you're not pushing your standards on others when it clearly collides with their's? But you clearly don't care if other people get offended, so ultimately what does it mean? And of course they have the right, but I sure as hell am not going to call them heroes or defenders of freedom or whatever. And attempting to ridicule a sensitive topic will just cause more negative reaction. Human natures? You seem pretty willing to endorse one over the other, regardless of the outcome. Oh and just in case: nobody is saying those violent threats are acceptable.
Agreed. I am fine with both the offender, and the offended.....both having their voices heard. I am not in favor of violence being threatened..... And if violence is being threatened, than more people need to call attention to that. DD
One side here is forcing their beliefs on someone else with violence (and with people on the sidelines saying they deserve it.) Someone else drawing a picture isn't forcing their beliefs on someone else. You have it backwards.
Here are the racist Danes, doing everything possible to alienate everybody who isn't blond and blue eyed, simply for the sake of doing it so they can cackle maniacally and twirl their mustaches: <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xgOyTNtsWyY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xgOyTNtsWyY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> In case you can't figure it out, a bunch of his coworkers have a big @ss flash mob for Mukhtar the immigrant Copenhagen bus driver's birthday and sing Danish birthday songs to him. Presumably to intimidate him into leaving Denmark? You can tell it is working when he is clearly driven almost to tears at the end.
Well, there is no oil and want to be grow towards being a secular democracy. They have no business being in the Middle East. lol The line between Europe and Russia is flimsy as it is anyway. Is Russia fully in Europe? ALL THAT is Europe? There are several countries bordering Iran on the North which used to be part of Europe.
Okay. Make fun of the violent offenders since they are stupid. Great. But not 25% of the entire planet. 24.99% of the planet didn't do a damn thing to you for you to make fun of their beliefs. Want to go after the radical 0.01%? Have at it.
Pointing out hypocrisy is never easy, and sometimes you are going to offend some folks which probably don't deserve it. It is the only way to point the light at the people who do deserve it. As for % that is meaningless, at one point a higher percentage of people worshiped the Greek gods....didn't make them right, did it? DD
But the point is who cares if they worshiped Greek Gods. That doesn't hurt anyone. Being offended by a cartoon of a prophet doesn't hurt anyone either. The only thing that hurts is when people react violently. If billions of people were worshiping Greek Gods I wouldn't say the right thing to do was to get as many people as possible to offend them for no reason other than offending them. Why not let them worship the gods of Olympus even if I think it's silly? It does no harm and is their right.
