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Max Contract Player Worthiness

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by celebrevida, Feb 28, 2024.

  1. celebrevida

    celebrevida Member

    Jun 5, 2016
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    Imagine all teams are starting from scratch with empty rosters (so no issue of need or fit). In some random order, all 30 teams take turns drafting a player and must sign that player to a max contract for 4 years starting from today.

    So with this thought experiment in mind, let's grade it like so and here are some examples IMHO:

    A: No-brainer, no-regret, 100% consensus max contract worthy (Antetokounmpo, Doncic, Jokic, etc.)
    B: Slight regret having to sign this player to max, opinion is ~75% on worthiness (Jaylen Brown)
    C: Mixed feelings, opinion is ~50% on worthiness (Gobert)
    D: Significant regret having to sign player to max, opinion is ~25% on worthiness (Bradley Beal)
    F: 100% consensus unworthy (Ayton)

    So which players are A-grade max players as of right now under this though experiment?

    What about grades B to D?

    And which players are clearly F-grade max players (can only think of Ayton at the moment, perhaps Simmons as well)?
  2. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Oct 5, 1999
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    Have to think on this one
    I think alot of folx are putting FVV at the C level

    Rocket River
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  3. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Apr 29, 2006
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    A 3-year contract with only two years guaranteed which makes him tradeable after the first year. A lot of folx are clueless.
  4. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Apr 16, 2012
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    like you since in reality he's not even close to max value

    funny how folks try to bring up the tradeable logic as a crutch. It literally alludes to the fact that you messed up and made a mistake aka not worth it
    #4 YOLO, Feb 28, 2024
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  5. CriscoKidd

    CriscoKidd Member

    Oct 18, 1999
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    Not going to go through the trouble of naming players, but in my mind, breaking down the tiers would be something like

    A ---> lift a team up into contenders almost by themselves. You would have to be a bad gm to put together a bad team with this guy already signed up.

    B ---> Can be a leading part of a contending team with a lot of help around them. Can keep a team respectable without a ton of help.

    C ---> Important part to a team. Someone you wouldn't want to lose. But super overpaid for what they do on the court. Can not hold down a team by themself for a significant amount of time.

    D --> Hopefully the guy was A, B, or C at some point in his career, but now he sucks and is an anchor.

    F --> Should never be considered for a max contract and any GM who offers it should be fired.
  6. JumpMan

    JumpMan Contributing Member
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    Jun 22, 2004
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    A: Jokic and Giannis
    B: Embiid, Butler, Kawhi, Curry, Doncic, Davis, LeBron, SGA, Tatum, Durant, Halliburton, Zion, Morant, Adebayo
    C: Young, Booker, George, Brown, Lillard, Gobert, Siakim, Irving, Towns, Harden, Garland, Mitchell, Ingram, Murray, Fox, Sabonis, Holliday
    D: Thompson, Beal, Van Fleet, Harris, Porzingis, McCollum, Porter
    F: LaVine, Simmons, Ayton, Hayward, Paul

    Didn't check next year's contracts. Those are the players make 30 million or more.
  7. pmac

    pmac Contributing Member

    Oct 10, 2007
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    This is close enough to how I feel. I would probably move a few guys from B to A and a few from B to C, but still close enough.

    The unfortunate part is that you really need A and B level max players to win a championship. If you don't have them or young guys that will develop into them, you might as well just tank because you have zero chance at a title.
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  8. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Dec 8, 2011
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    Jalen is worthy.
  9. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
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    Jul 23, 2002
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    It depends on how you define max contract. My understanding is that a max contract is not only about the maximum amount allowed but also the maximum length allowed. If that's the definition, FVV's contract is not really a max.
  10. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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