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Matt Schaub or Tony Romo

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rocketballin, Sep 25, 2007.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    Parcells cost them that game... leaving your starting QB as a holder when you had weeks to transition with some other guy before the playoffs? Romo should have never been put in that position in a playoff game... what if some DL crashes into him during a PAT attempt and snaps some bones? Why have Romo keep doing it when he'd been running around all day, getting knocked down, and dealing with the mental aspects of leading a team in a playoff game? Parcells left his starting QB exposed to fatigue, mental error, and physical injury unnecessarily.
     
  2. ferrari77

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    Thank You!!!! Nothing else needs to be said. Most Cowboys fans don't blame Romo for that game, it goes:

    Parcells
    Defense
    TGlenn
    Romo/Grammatica( because a lot of fans feel if automatica did a better job blocking Romo would have made it to the end zone).

    Also, someone said Romo has great receiving targets. Romo has T.O.
    Terry is injured and aging, Pat crayton is a decent receiver with solid hands when his fingers arent broken. Sam Hurd is a young 'un still learning.
    Witten is a very good tight end, not yet a great tight end. Not to say Romo has worse options than Mcnabb or others but his receiving options are nothing to write home about.
     
  3. msn

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    Most Cowboys fans think they'll win the SuperBowl every year, too. :p

    Oh, and I agree that Romo is shaping up to be a superb quarterback.
     
  4. Desert Scar

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    It was me. The have one of the top 4 lead WRs in Owens and one of the top 4 receiving TEs in Witten. The Cowboys backs are above average receiving as well. I agree Crayton and Hurd are below average guys to be your 2nd and 3rd WR, but they are in that position because of Glenn's injury.

    With Glenn I think they have the best group of passing targets with the exception of Indy. I would not argue if someone said Arizona (or Cincy, or potentially, Detroit), but you could also argue Dallas superior TE cancels out much of the advantage of those teams far superior #2 wideouts.

    Either way, with Glenn (like last year) I'd say Romo has as quality of overall targets as high as #2 amd no lower than #4, without Glenn maybe #3-#6 range, something like that. And Dallas's oline is playing great too. This offense is a beast to try to cover right now.
     
  5. Desert Scar

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    ....and most Rocket fans think the Larry Obrien Trophy (I hope that is its name) is coming back each year:p

    Dallas is the clear favorite right now from the NFC. But they would be big underdogs to Indy or NE.
     
  6. hatemavs4life

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    Haha! Sorry man, what can I say other than ... I'm glad that part of OUR history is history. So many opportunities squandered. You want to be really pissed off? Imagine Earl Campbell lined up behind Warren Moon? We would have dominated. We would have been bad ass and definitely should have gotten one or two SB victories! So much talent ... so much talent.
     
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    It's not absurd. And watch with the name calling. I'll leave it at that.
     
  9. Kam

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    oh god, that will give me nightmares.
     
  10. david_rocket

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    LFMAO!!!

    Very nice!! :cool:
     
  11. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    OK, you win. A guy fumbling a snap on a game-winning FG attempt with hardly any time left on the clock is not an important play in the game.

    In other revisionist history, John Stockton's three pointer to win beat the Rockets was a throwaway basket. Chris Burke's 18th inning HR against the Braves was meaningless.

    In good news, Lorenzo Charles was never born.
     
  12. ryan17wagner

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    Thanks. Good bye.
     
  13. sammy

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    Good post. Schaub did decent with nothing around him against the Colts and we are still favored to win this Sunday (w/o Johnson, Jones, and most likely Green). Im leaning towards the 6'5" quarterback.
     
  14. DrewP

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    Did you watch the entire game?
     
  15. Ashes

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    I think, regardless of ifs such as Terry Glenn fumbling and Bill Parcells not transitioning to another holder, that Romo, given the position he was in and the simplicity of his task, should have held on to the ball for an easy FG. In football, regardless of what has happened you have to take what you are given and get the job done, and Romo failed at that. He fumbled the snap. Granted Terry Glenn fumbled, the defense allowed Seattle to turn it into a TD, and Parcells left a starting QB as a kick-holder, Romo still fumbled the ball. He screwed up. Cowboys lost. That's what happened.
     
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    "Man, I sure wish people would have watched the 'whole' game I played in and saw how it fully played out..."
     
  17. DrewP

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    I agree but I still don't really feel Romo is guilty of losing the game.

    From my perspective, the defense was being dominated by Seattle. Terry Glenn's fumble was an atrocious play that was essentially worth nine points. Even if they had put the ball through for a field goal (which wasnt automatic for washed-up Gramatica) Seattle still would have just marched down the field and scored via Hassleback or clutch kicking Brown.

    It's also interesting to note that the NFL changed the rules on how they handle special teams balls because of this incident. I have seen side by side frames of the ball used that play and ones used earlier and that ball is definitely slick and shining. Not an absolute excuse, but something to take note of.
     
  18. DrewP

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    Buckner lost the only world series chance his team had in 70+ years. Romo "lost" a wild card game.
     
  19. msn

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    But if the pitcher recovers from the error and gets guys out, then Buckner's error doesn't matter. If the Sox score in the bottom of the ninth or more runs earlier, Buckner's error doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the magnitude of the game--Romo's error may have cost them the game.

    It's very, very simple: the lead they had lost thanks to Glenn and the other previous events of the game was right there for them to take with a slam dunk field goal. And Romo fumbled it away.

    I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

    Did Romo "lose the game"? No, the Cowboys lost the game. But the most costly play, by far, was Romo's.

    And that doesn't take away from the fact (well, my opinion anyway) that he may well become an elite QB in the NFL.

    But we'll never know. Why won't we ever know? Because Romo fumbled it away.

    RM95's post dripped with sarcasm but contained no ad hominem whatsoever. Sarcasm is a reality on an Internet bulletin board.

    And I think the points are lucid, frankly. One doesn't have to become a "Romo apologist" and make up excuses for a play that clearly botched an opportunity to win a wild card game to say he's potentially a great QB. They can (and do) coexist. It looks like he'll get his shot at redemption this year.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    Let me be perfectly clear... I am not a Cowboys fan. I detest the Cowboys. I'm even sick of their cheerleaders. But I do know a little about football, and that was a bonehead move on Parcells part... keeping Romo as the holder after he becomes the starter was going to catch up with him at some point.
     

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