this is a good point, and you got to give them credit for trying to improve the team. I hope this works out, I think they must see something in him to make this move. Finally moving on.
you stole my thunder. he and baqui99 don't care for the texans yet they're always in the middle of every thread.
I am slowly recovering from Phillip Buchanon, Casserly, Tony Hollings, VY, Travis Johnson..... I'm warming up now, Schaub getting AJohnson the ball 25 yds downfield, converting in the red zone, making big plays YEAH! I'm feeling it a little now.....
so with Baqui its, hey we got the defensive rookie of the year with a second rounder, with Icehouse its who gives a flip about a second rounder? wasn't that baqui's argument?
The guys on 790 are positively giddy about this trade. They played a clip quoting several Falcons players as saying that they would've been better off with Schaub than Vick. In other words, Michael Vick's own teammates think Matt Schaub is a better starting QB. Schaub was one of the best quarterbacks in the league not starting for his team. And the best part is - he's still young, so we're not overpaying for an old guy like Garcia. For 2 second round picks? I love it. I can't really think of a better way they could've solved the quarterback problem than this. Whatever we get for Carr is just gravy on top.
I'm glad they got Schaub, but it does seem a little steep. We'll see how it pans out. Looking forward to seeing what they get for David Carr -- maybe someone will overpay. A new environment could really work for Carr. What are you and Ric going to do from here when the BBS' favorite tag team, the Human Rolleyes and the Sarcaschewan Giant, can no longer mock all those who thought David Carr might be done in Houston?
My assessment of the trade has now changed 3 times. First I was happy when I thought it was only a 2nd round pick Then I got pissed when I realized it was all the other picks Now here is how I look at it: 1) Trading the 1st round picks is a wash 2) It's as if we are drafting Matt Schaub with our 2007 2nd round pick (#39) ----- which is a very good pick then. 3) The 2008 2nd round pick hurts a little bit. If we can get a 2008 2nd or 3rd for Carr that will make it better. Let's wait to see what happens with Carr before saying this trade is good or bad. Now if we only get a 5th or 6th round pick in 2007, I will be pretty pissed. At least I'm happy to root for some NEW GUYS -- Schaub and Ahman Green. We now must get Branch, Okoye, Levi, or Landry (I prefer Landry since we never have had a safety on this team in FIVE years, but he may not fall to us now).
Well, a lot of people around the league seem to think he can resurrect his career in a new environment, so there's definitely a market for him.
The value of the 2008 2nd is still TBD. If Schaub does take this team to the next level, that pick would end up being a low pick anyway, making the deal even sweeter for the Texans.
Yup, and we can finally hold Kubiak accountable for the offense now. He has his guy at QB, and he better get us a winning season in 2 years.
Baqui99 was saying the second rounder wouldn't matter since the Texans would just screw the pick up anyway. That sounds even more r****ded than usual from him considering this regime picked the DROY with the only second round pick they've used. I don't give a flip about a second rounder in 2008 when it fills a need by adding a non-rookie starting QB and opens up our first round pick to be used on a position that's more likely to come in and contribute faster than a rookie QB normally would.
I've said from a little after halfway through the 2006 that I a) thought Carr was gone and b) wanted Carr gone. So, I'm happy as all get out right now.
if we are not trading down in the first round this year and giving up the 2 second rounders isnt much.... we were likely going to draft a QB so just take it as we drafted schaub as the 39th pick and gave up ONE second rounder next year people just think of it as 2 2nd rounders, when they dont realize we are getting a player in return...so really just one....well thats how i see it he will be a great qb here....he is the anti-carr which many people will be happy about...good play making skills..pretty sure andre will be very happy as far as the texans, i think they are addressing alot of holes on the team and adding depth where needed......im ready for the season and we havnt even gotten to the draft nor made any other trades/moves go texans
I'm starting to agree with you about the second rounder. Also, considering we have some significant cap space next year, that should absorb the loss of the 2nd round pick.
As a non-caring Houstonian that is forced to spend money on the Texans if my girl or lil brothers want to go to a game I have a right to bi*%h when I feel they do something stupid, as I am forced to watch the stupidity on the field and pay money for others to watch as well.